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Change "playing video games" to "playing football/soccer/basketball".

It's just a different competitive activity.



Through, kids tend to be calm after playing those sports and tend to act like jerks after playing videogames. They also focus on homework better after sport and worst after game.

They are also able to stop soccer easier while not too tired, but play game longer then they can handle (leading to royally annoying behavior).


Independent of how well this narrative typifies any particular group of people, this response is a non sequitur, in the context of the original comment. Ie, atom-morgan is suggesting that the mental experience of video game stream audience members is similar to that of sport stream audience members. Presumably, we would match a video game and sport of similar intensity (team fortress : football :: papers please : figure skating).


I'd like some citations for that wildly presumptuous statement.


Opinion comes from my personal experience with children whether ones that I just observed or was responsible for. Biology is just different during the two activities I guess.

I used to defend games until I had to deal with kids behavior after.


During what two activities?


Let’s call it repeated observation. Watching people play video games induces a drug like numbness and craved fixation followed by withdrawal once the stimulus is removed. The withdrawal is observable as a lack of cognitive concentration compounded by emotional sensitivity.


Personal "repeated observation" is nothing more than anecdotal evidence. It doesn't mean anything.

Watching anything that you enjoy will create a stimulus feedback loop.

I like watching let's plays of old games and learning new strategies for old games from people who dedicate large amounts of their time and expertise to that kind of thing.

I don't suddenly have a "lack of cognitive concentration compounded by emotional sensitivity" after watching. I experience the same symptoms I would if I had just watched half an hour of television, whether its a sports game or cartoon. If I was intellectually stimulated during this time, then my brain begins sorting and strengthening connections between new and old information. If I have a mental addiction to whatever I'm doing, then some negative impulses may also occur, but that happens with literally anything and is irrelevant to video games.

The ideas you're suggesting, that watching someone else play video games creates negative behavior such as "focusing on homework better after sport and worst after game" is some serious armchair psychology that, unless you can provided citations to credible studies, simply has no basis in reality.


I don't suddenly have a "lack of cognitive concentration compounded by emotional sensitivity" after watching. I experience...

I'm not rude enough to just reply "That doesn't mean anything" to that, but the thought of doing so crossed my mind.


I'm confused.

Are you trying to call me out for negating a personal anecdote with another anecdote?

That's the whole point. To show that they don't mean anything statistically.

It's not rude to point out to someone that their anecdotal "evidence" is meaningless. It's just a fact.


Hi. Well, firstly, facts/honesty can be brutal. Someone's 'just a fact' can be someone else's flaggable offence, as often seen on here. I was threatened with banning for stating 'just facts' just yesterday. (true story!)

Ah, sure, I see..but even rereading now, it really doesn't seem your anecdata was meant to be meaningless. Too subtle for me, maybe, I'm no expert. Sorry, I'll butt out now.

Edit: Downvoter, could you explain why? Thanks.

Edit2: I looked at your recent comment history, it happens quite a lot that you get downvoted for telling people their ideas have no basis in reality, in a way that I guess doesn't seem rude to you, but seems so to me. We have different levels of 'acceptable abrasiveness' I guess.


For the record, I didn't downvote you. Simply having a disagreement is not what that button is for.

But I'd love to see another example of a recent comment where I told someone their idea had no basis in reality, because I definitely don't do that. My comment here was specifically rejecting the notion that OP could form such conclusions with only weakly described, negative-biased anecdotal evidence.


I think the downvotes are because your comments do not make it clear who/what you are responding to or what you are trying to say, and seem tangential to the topic under discussion. Both of them impose extra mental load on readers without any obvious payoff.


There was 1 downvote (until now), the person I responded to got downvotes, plural.

It was obvious who I who responding to, surely. No idea why you say that. Ok.. It's not clear to me what type of comments I am allowed to make about people's posts if not the type I made. If you don't understand, ask. Telling me it's 'tangential' and referring to what I'm 'trying to say' are unfriendly moves that could be used in replying to most comments on HN. But I feel that whatever I could say wouldn't be welcome here so...bye.


I get downvoted quite regularly for expressing my opinion, you get used to it. Just try to make sure you're actually expressing a related opinion and not just tangentially responding in a way that doesn't foster more discussion.


Definitely not limited to children, I observe this in myself too. (although hopefully I handle it better than a child)

I suspect that is because when playing a physical sport, the physical exertion gives you a dopamine rush whether you lose or win. When playing video games, you have no such release if you lose - just pent up frustration.


That or the exercise means you're too tired to actually do anything with your anger and disappointment and instead just sit there hating yourself.


I don't think that describes feeling and behavior after people playing sport. Not in my experience at all. It is other way round - angry sad people are happier after physical activity (which does not have to be competitive anyway).




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