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> It can solve that Arc-AGI benchmark thing at huge compute cost

Considering DeepSeek v3 trained for $5-6M and their R1 API pricing is 30x less than o1, I wouldn’t expect this to hold true for long. Also seems like OpenAI isn’t great at optimization.



OpenAI is great at optimisation - compare the cost of -4o to -4. They just haven't optimised o3 yet.


4o is more expensive than DeepSeek-R1, so…? Even if we took your premise as true and we say they are as good as DeepSeek, this would just mean that OpenAI is wildly overcharging its users.


now openai has no other choice than shipping a cheaper version of o1 and o3. The alternative is everyone using r1 (self hosted or via openrouter, nebius AI, together AI and co)




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