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Public schools are a cancer. They are worse for your intellectual development than just being left alone. They actually damage your mind by suffocating you of free thought and experimentation. And in the name of doing this, they pile on the stress and expose you to viscous bullies. The kids run these schools now, they are closer to day-care centers or zoos than schools. The teachers just watch idly while their students succumb to the horrible circumstances that they are forced into. I know because it happened to me. American public schools in particular are a disgrace. And to top it all off they woke me up at 6AM 5.5 days a week which was never necessary and has been shown to be detrimental to students wellbeing. God damn if there is one thing in this world that I resent it is the mother fucking public schools. God fucking damn them.


I'm sorry for your truly traumatizing experience, but you should know that not all public schools are like yours was.

There are a lot of public schools where students have great experiences on balance, but they tend to be in communities with resources, and importantly, involved parents, often via a PTA that is actively involved in keeping the school a safe place for children, usually with active anti-bullying programs and interventions.

Any school is ultimately an extension of the community it serves, and the problems and virtues of that community will manifest themselves in the school. For example, many wealthy private schools have severe problems with students who have access to high cost dangerous drugs. I personally know many people who have seen that phenomenon up close. Bullying can take place in these schools too, but be covered up by the fact that parents are paying very high tuition fees.


They’re the only place that most people will ever experience physical violence.


This is true for me. Public schools are so horrible that it drives me insane just to think about it. And people brush it off because of some vague notion that there’s no other choice. Look at billy eilish. She’s fantastic and very successful and she was homeschooled. Palmer luckey who founded oculus and is now worth something like 500 million dollars, homeschooled. “I can’t afford homeschooling. I have never even tried to assemble a budget or think critically about it but I just know it would be too expensive and would not work because nobody was ever successful after homeschooling. I guess I’ll just throw my child to the lions and hope they don’t become a shooter.”


Of course there are exceptions, but most homeschooled people I've met have displayed some sort of social deficiency. I wouldn't support a blanket statement that the solution is more home schooling.


Homeschooling and the Question of Socialization Revisited

https://www.stetson.edu/artsci/psychology/media/medlin-socia...

This article reviews recent research on homeschooled children’s socialization. The research indicates that homeschooling parents expect their children to respect and get along with people of diverse backgrounds, provide their children with a variety of social opportunities outside the family, and believe their children’s social skills are at least as good as those of other children. What homeschooled children think about their own social skills is less clear. Compared to children attending conventional schools, however, research suggest that they have higher quality friendships and better relationships with their parents and other adults. They are happy, optimistic, and satisfied with their lives. Their moral reasoning is at least as advanced as that of other children, and they may be more likely to act unselfishly. As adolescents, they have a strong sense of social responsibility and exhibit less emotional turmoil and problem behaviors than their peers. Those who go on to college are socially involved and open to new experiences. Adults who were homeschooled as children are civically engaged and functioning competently in every way measured so far. An alarmist view of homeschooling, therefore, is not supported by empirical research. It is suggested that future studies focus not on outcomes of socialization but on the process itself.


You obviously haven't met many homeschooled people.


I'd be very careful of making statements like that. Confirmation bias is a very dangerous thing. How many well adjusted home schooled people have you met without realizing or remembering they were home schooled?

You have to look at studies to have any hope of fairly evaluating the efficacy of home school.


Most homeschooled kids probably fall into religious zealot parent group or homeschooled because of obvious deficiencies displayed early on group. There is no intrinsic quality of homeschooling that makes kids deficient in any area. There is no reason why you can’t sign your kid up for little league and have him hanging out with other kids and adults. I’m just not convinced. And it wouldn’t matter anyway because literally anything is better than public school. If I have kids I will be forced to homeschool them.


I had to look up this billy eilish and what is so fantastic about her?

Palmer - right.


I really enjoyed my public education, but I realize we happen to have very very good public schools in my city. I'm sorry your experience was so bad.


Thank you. But what really matters is not the well-being of individual people who fall through the cracks but the well-being of the whole country. Our public schools on the whole are simply not equipping people to be good citizens. Look at the average Americans knowledge of geography. We are an international embarrassment. How will people vote intelligently when they can’t even point to Germany on a map? It’s a very serious problem.


That was a highly negative recollection, sorry that you had such a bad experience. I was schooled through public in a poor urban district and it was rough but I learned a lot. I also taught science in very poor districts for years and most students liked school. Its akin to a job for kids, somewhat crushing to many but ultimately we do need to train and socialize and educate our populace. Home and private and charter schools all are important but public schools are essential to training our next generation.


I think you need some therapy dude.


No, actually you’re wrong. Even if you live in a state that does not practice common law marriage, you probably live in a state that adheres to the concept of cohabitation. I’ve looked at the laws myself for my state, and it’s clear that a man can be held responsible for non-marital alimony just for having a woman reside on his property. No paperwork is necessary, not even a verbal agreement. The laws are totally stacked against men and it’s complete bullshit.


Everything you said is wrong.

1: Ma said that AI can never be as smart as a human. The core of his argument was that humans will always be more clever than machines because humans create machines. Humans working less is just a byproduct of this. I was amazed to see how stupid Ma is. He is truly ignorant.

2: the core of Elon’s argument is that AGI is detrimental to human society. Elon’s first choice is to not have AGIs come about. Merging with them is his second choice and a stopgap measure. It isn’t learn ai or perish, it’s learn ai and reduce the probability of perishing modestly. You may not realize this without having heard other interviews though.

3: musk never said anything about people living in spires as a societal inequality thing. He said in terms of being able to see what’s coming, some people are atop spires and some people are on the ground. All he’s saying is that some people can see clearly what’s coming (AI turning the world upside down) and most people can’t see what’s coming. Nothing to do with socioeconomics or inequality. Wasn’t a social comment.


Watch Jack speak to Alibaba's original employees and you'll find that most of his musings about technology were off the mark:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Up9-C4_8dVo

And yet Alibaba is now worth more than Ebay and Yahoo combined.

He may be ignorant but he's not entirely stupid.

Of course, the irony of him talking about how Alibaba employees should work more hours shouldn't be lost on people.


I was referring to their messages to the public about how to react to advances in AI. Your interpretations are about AI’s impact on society. I don’t disagree with your interpretations, but it definitely doesn’t make mine wrong. They’re different facets of the same conversation.


I don’t follow you. I have accurately described what they actually said in the China video. Your descriptions were wrong. It has nothing to do with my point of view. Go review the video.


The problem isn’t pge, it’s the weather. How does anyone expect pge to never allow a single failure? They used to happen all the time and it didn’t matter because California wasn’t a fucking tinder box. The problem isn’t pge it’s the tinderbox. Take away pge and you will still have fires as was demonstrated today in Moraga where 50 acres burned where there was no power. Take away the tinderbox and you won’t have fires. Everyone hating on pge is nothing short of a mass hallucination.


This would make a lot more sense if the failures of PG&E infrastructure that caused previous fires were not because of negligence.

It's one thing to criticize the utility for a rare failure when they engaged in reasonable maintenance and quite another when the failure was due to poor maintenance hidden behind falsified records.


The point is that the fires aren’t caused by their negligence. They would have happened anyway as you just admitted. But the uproar is blaming them for fires. It’s incorrect.


PG&E literally falsified maintenance records. They are not innocent victims who did what they could to prevent fires.


Kaku also incorrectly predicted HEVs.


People are so funny. I saw a bbc documentary about sex dolls. The reporter had a tour of a Japanese sex doll factory and stumbled across a sex doll that looked exactly like a 12 yo girl. This straight, grown male reporter immediately began to weep. His response was to sob. It was hilarious. It was so politically incorrect that it broke his brain. Perfect example of how irrational people become when child sexuality is involved. Especially brits. It’s just a doll you twit.


Eventually the shell will be a single large roll of steel that is unrolled, bent into a tube with a seam going hotdog that is welded. It will be very strong, lighter than the current patchwork, and extremely beautiful. More similar to the renderings. Can’t wait.


Definitely not hotdog (assuming that's from stem to stern). Musk wasn't totally clear when describing it, but he said mk3 would be in three months. The circumference of starship is 28.26 meters. For a single weld the entire length of the ship, the roll itself would need to be that wide.

The largest rolling mills in the world are ~4 meters wide[1]. They require backup rollers[2], ie rollers that push down the rollers that push down the rollers that push down the metal. Bending deflection increases with width^2. A 28 meter wide rolling mill does not exist AFAIK and cannot be built in three months.

[1]: https://www.aleris.com/company/rolled-products/

[2]: http://www.yourarticlelibrary.com/metallurgy/types-of-rollin...


Wow what an incredibly substantive comment. I remember pretty clearly he said that there would be a single seam weld. Maybe I’m remembering wrong. Or maybe they’ll seam weld multiple rolls into a really wide roll and the only weld required to turn the final roll into the shell is that final hotdog weld.


I think when Elon said "there will be a single seam weld" (which I also remember), he meant this in comparison to the current welds.

It's been 12 hours and I only skimmed the video, so I might be misremembering what he said. My understanding was this: Mk1 is welded from plates so at each layer of the stack you have n-1 welds holding the n plates together. My understanding of his comment was that the steel coils will wrap around the major axis of the rocket but instead of each layer containing n-1 welds to join n plates, there will just be one weld in each layer to join the beginning and end of that coil. That would still leave you with welds joining the different layers of coils but only one "seam" weld along the rocket's major axis.


I think the idea's to go like a Pringles can, with a spiraling single seam.


maybe, but that's also pretty unlikely. For reference here's where musk talks about it: https://youtu.be/sOpMrVnjYeY?t=3156

No real indication he means a spiral.

There are a lot of problems with a spiral. Thin sheets of steel, even hot rolled, are very affected by the rolling process. There's also the weld line going up in a spiral. That will cause uneven heat diffusion and expansion, which is a recipe for disaster given that the skin will be cold enough to liquify helium on one side and boiling hot on the other. Then red hot during reentry. Straight lines don't have the same problems.


If getting out of your yoga pants is like opening a can of biscuits, then making a starship is like putting your yoga pants back on...


They can't do that because they need to thickness to taper off up the sides of the vehicle.


this is the correct answer. They can simply use the 4 meter wide steel no problem.


I feel like he was talking about a single weld on each ring section.


The "single piece" method he is talking about is that the individual _rings_ will be made of a single piece with a single weld, and the rings are then stacked. You can see it already in the Starship under construction in Florida. (Look at the unstacked rings.)

https://twitter.com/FarryFaz/status/1170535411678101504/phot...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ED6Tva7XYAESQJJ?format=jpg&name=...


How do you picture them rolling a piece of steel 50 meters wide? As far as I know, the widest rolling mills in existence are 5 meters wide.


Think of it like a paper towel tube. It's a spiral.

Single helical weld.


Spiral tube are a bad choice for a rocket. Because rolled steel has the grains largely aligned with the direction of rolling, it is stiffer and has less thermal expansion in one axis than the other. Large forces and temperature changes therefore cause a twisting motion, which can put weird strains on the internal components.


Pillsbury rolls come to mind. The tube is under pressure from the leavening agent, and you apply torsion on the tub until the can ruptures along the spiral seam.


That would not go over well with the occupants.


I recall the rolls scaring the shit out of a fair number of people and those were with the promise of warm, flaky goodness, not hot, fiery death.

This of course matters if the seam is weaker than the rest of the metal.

I've been assured time and again that you can make welds that are stronger than the rest of the metal, but my lizard brain thinks they're all liars.


They said they would do butt welds, not spiral.


Just curious - what industry are you in that you know off of the top of your head the max size of rolled steel?


Nearly anyone who buys sheets of rolled steel eventually finds they can't buy a sheet bigger than a certain size...

Same exists for most goods - try to buy a dustsheet to cover your room, and you can't buy one wider than 5 meters without a seam


This is not true. Uber drivers make tons of money. I know because I was one. The press put a microscope on the subset of drivers who are stupid and can’t make money because they run their businesses poorly. The press is happy to let them tell their son stories but what they don’t mention is that those drivers refuse to drive anywhere outside their immediate area, they drive huge shitty cars that cost literally ten times more per mile to operate than a corolla or Prius, and various other things. There’s this myth floating around that Uber is a trap because the costs of running and maintaining a vehicle is difficult to quantify and all Uber drivers are uneducated people being taken advantage of. This is totally, completely untrue and seeing this myth/meme spread like cancer across the entire internet has opened my eyes to how something that is totally untrue can become widely and vehemently believed. It’s simply not true. I’ve given many thousands of rides. I know. I have a college education and the calculations solidly land within the region of very healthy profit no matter how pessimistic the maintenance projections are and no matter how wide the error margin is made. It’s. A. Fucking. Myth. I genuinely wonder if people will someday understand.

Anyway, drivers make more than enough. After glancing at Uber’s books, it looks like they spent literally a billion dollars on advertising. They also do a a lot of research. Uber could easily run its ride sharing service with room for profit if it wanted to cut back in other areas.

Ride sharing is totally economically viable as a business and it is better than traditional dispatch in almost every way. Companies like Uber aren’t going anywhere. To say that Uber is worthless is flat out wrong. Overvalued or levered or invested-in, yes maybe. But ride sharing is solid. The only thing that could change it is self driving cars.


can’t make money because they run their businesses poorly

I don't have any data but this wouldn't surprise me in the least.

You're taking a bunch of people who really aren't that interested in running a business, just in making ends meet. It's not surprising that they won't do the kind of critical analysis that running a profitable business entails.

My first ever Uber ride was in an almost brand new BMW. Really nice car, but I have no idea how you can make money driving Uber with a vehicle that expensive. As a side gig for extra cash a couple hours a day in a high-density area? I can see that. But doing it full time with all the additional wear and tear on the vehicle? No way.

Judging from the comments I see on /r/freelance, I believe many freelancers/gig workers would prefer to be employees because they really don't enjoy doing the work that they are.


I’m gonna trust the multitudes if studies than someone telling the rest of his peers to be better.


You should trust neither. You should think for yourself. Nobody seems to be able to do it anymore.

Look, you don’t need a paper or a PhD to understand this:

When I was driving, I got paid roughly 60c per mile and then got more for time, a one time fee and tips. But baseline 60c per mile. It costs 20c to 25c per mile to drive a Toyota Corolla. Yes, that includes all expenses. It’s the cost of insurance and gas and the cost of buying a new car when the old one is at end of life. Nobody is losing money doing this. It isn’t rocket science.


Would you tell them to think for themselves even if they happened to be agreeing with you?


There are so many layers of nuance that your comment glosses over that I find it hard to answer. It depends on why they agree with me. Do they agree with me because they were an Uber driver too? Because they did the math? Because they believe anything they read? In the context of agreeing with me, have they made it obvious whether or not they checked this conclusion On their own? Do they provide the reason they agree with me? Is this agreement a comment or simply an upvote? Be more specific.


> The press put a microscope on the subset of drivers who are stupid and can’t make money because they run their businesses poorly.

Which very likely is the vast majority of drivers. Subtract those and we're back to ordinary cab, pizza delivery levels of service. Probably less.


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