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Alphabet is not stupid. They are doing this to be part of the ecosystem.

The same with robots.

Before they sell it to some competitor, they will shelf it and will bet on nvidias autonomoes car platform.


I did a basic napkin calculation in the other comment. The price of the car is not that relevant per km than you make it to be.

I think self driving will be a commodity in the long term and every car will be able to do it. If Tesla will solve it purly by cameras, every other car manufacturer will be able to add this too. Perhaps a few years later but they will be able to do it too.

So Tesla has to leverage the first mover advantage, and they are loosing this already.

And while Musk says robot taxis are fundamental to tesla, the taxi market is actually not that big. All the broad nice areas like small cities etc. will buy a small fleet of cars and i don't think the price point of a Tesla will that crazy much cheaper than whatever everyone else will have that it will be obvous for everyone to just buy the Tesla model.

I alone will not use Tesla alone for Musk. Despite that, people might want to pay a euro more to have a SVU to have space or higher entry point than choosing the cheapest Tesla model to drive with.

Tesla can't flood the market very easily. If they could, they would have done it. And its expected that Tesla will not suddenly find the solution to their problems. They are optimizing away the next 9 at the 9x% reliability. Every additional 9 will take the same amount as the previous 9. And the nines are quite relevant if you look how many km these cars will have to drive.


Calculate how much a car can drive (200-400k km), then the avg cost of a car (50k vs. 100k) and the avg taxi route (5-30km).

The car itself is a price point of 10 to 40 cent pro km which has impact on the journey for sure but a lot less that it might be the reason.

if you tell me, that i can take the saver car and pay 1 euro more with a 20 euro fair, I wouldn't care.

Nonetheless, economy of scale has happened already at lidar and continues to happen.

If tesla can't get it running properly in bad weather but waymo can, they can also compensate it just by driving at situations were tesla doesn't want to drive.

But hey its just brainstorming at this point as tesla is not close enough to waymo to compare it properly. And while waymo exists, plenty of other companies exist too doing this. Nvidia itself will keep building their car platform which will level the playfield even more.

Whatever market selfdriving cars are, it will be split between everyone and no tesla will not just 'win' this. It will be a race to the bottom for everyone reducing the revenue to a commodity.


I bought a while back a calibration device and calibrated my displays.

I always buy good displays (ISP, high resolution, good test results) and the calibration was very very good out of the box. I sold the calibration device after.

If you don't have to provide pin point accuracy from display to the industry level printer with color profile, you will not need this if you don't buy cheap.


I see easily a difference on text rendering on a mac os retina display (3k on 14") vs. 4k 27" oled. 1080p is horrible obvious on basically every display size i own.

And my smartphone or my DSLR take pictures with more than 4k, you can see the image sharpness difference also immediately.

What content is left? Games, but they also have text. Higher resolution, less antialising needed.

The most frustrating thing about this type of discussion is: Its 2025! 4k displays exist for how much in consumer space? 10 years by now?

8k is also nice. Might actually be something i don't pay extra for, but supporting 8k opens up so many possibilities. Like controling 4 4k displays without issues (demo walls, event setups etc.) or just 2 or 3 24/27" displays on your desk.


27" is huge.

I remember comparing 4k macbook with my 1440p samsung, both 14" and it was impossible to say at that screen size.


It isn't huge. On a large desk, my 32" 4K display is great, and easily substitutes two smaller monitors for productivity tasks. It's also very immersive for gaming, even more so now that you have OLED options.


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