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> I can only assume that you weren't around for the transition. Intra-EU flights cost multiples of the average industrial week's wages before Ryanair. Air travel was inaccessible or rarely accessible to the vast majority of people in the continent.

That's not true. Otherwise you'd be gouged on every route not served by Ryan Air, which is definitely not the case.

Have they pushed prices down? Arguably, yes. But not by orders of magnitude.


> Otherwise you'd be gouged on every route not served by Ryan Air, which is definitely not the case.

Are there many routes not served by one of Ryanair/Easyjet/Wizzair? (The other two are on the Ryanair model).

> But not by orders of magnitude.

Looks like in 1980 a flight from Dublin to London was about 150-200 Irish pounds. 150 pounds is 189 euro without inflation, but factoring in inflation, 150 Irish pounds in 1980 is 899 euro today (easy to forget how much inflation there was in the 80s). While the Crowdstrike thing is currently stopping me from checking prices, Ryanair to Gatwick is usually like 30-50 euro these days. So that's an order of magnitude, anyway.

And Dublin to London is probably close to a best-case; it's short, and it was always a relatively busy route served by multiple flag carriers. Many routes would have been single-carrier. If you wanted to fly, say, Dublin to Athens back then, well, you probably weren't doing it direct, for a start, and it'd cost you a small fortune.


To me it seems disingenuous to only compare prices and not what you got as part of the ticket.

I imagine on that old ticket you could: pick up a phone and get help with anything, check luggage for free, take a carry-on for free, check in at the airport, free food/drinks on board, more staff on board, comfier seats, more leg room, could make changes/refund with fewer penalties. Oh and probably much better IRROPs support

If I price up a a Ryanair flight LGW-DUB with roughly some the above included, that's 347 EUR return - https://imgur.com/FPkbdec.png (I accounted £20 for drinks + food). (You can also get a LHR-DUB BA Business Class ticket for that!)

Again I concede flying is cheaper these days, but as demonstrated, the original claims of magnitude(s) aren't right, if we make a fairer comparison

You can argue people didn't need all those extra etc but that's a different topic and moving the goalposts

Anyway I suspect a hint of patriotism or profound appreciation for the service they offer is marring these discussions so it's all a bit fruitless


You can avoid all those charges by simply playing their game.

Minimal luggage, no extra crap like speedy boarding or so, be prepared to forfait the money if you change plans (change of flight is usually horrendously expensive) and alway print / mobile app your boarding pass.


Virtually all banks in Prague offer this (extremely expensive) convenience.

What pisses me even more off is that most ATMs charge an additional fee for their usage. The exception being KB (Societe Generale) and Raiffeisenbank.


> c) around 80€ flat.

Then they cheated you.

The cash compensation in Europe if they bump you is 250 - 600 EUR per flight and person, depending on distance. That even applies for significant delays.

To be fair, it can be a hassle to get it. But sometimes, if the airline is clearly at fault not.

And for the record: Every airline overbooks. But usually they find enough volounteers to make it work.


> They then charge you to use an app to scan your ID, some ridiculously low amount like 60 cents

Huh? never had to scan my ID upon booking a flight. On rare occasions I had to submit my passport details. Usually for flights to the UK.

Within Schengen, I don't even have to show my ID to get into the transit area or to board the flight.

I never booked Ryan Air and I don't think I ever will. The whole experience sounds just too frustrating.


A trial period is part of every permanent employment contract herearound. No matter the job.

Both parties can terminate the employment agreement within a week for (usually) the fist three month of employment.

No stigma involved.


Which usually have an

[ACCEPT] [REJECT]

without any dark patterns whatsoever.


+1

An amazing read and I also highly recommend it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire_of_Pain


I think you're right.

That's usually handled with an app on your phone and is pretty much frictionless.


Burden? Not really.

I get a popup on my phone via the issuers app

  CONFIRM DENY
And after clicking CONFIRM the transaction goes through. Adds maybe 3 seconds to the process.

This is online only. On site payments of ca. 100$ or less are tap and done. For higher value transactions a PIN is required.


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