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Unfortunately this is extremely dangerous as this opens the door to mis-labeling attacks by politicians pushing agendas and looking to censor talk against them.


The world has already learned from doing this mistake. Despotism is bad and listening to the above is how you get there.


Thank you for your effort in keeping the discussion healthy.

However my impression is that this thread is lower in the HN rankings compared to what I usually see for something this new and with this score and discussion.

Am I wrong in perceiving this? Can you please help me understand?


It set off the flamewar detector. I've turned that off now.


This is extremely concerning if true.


This is extremely concerning and hints at a potential intentional organized suppression of information that is calling out the horrors that are being committed in Gaza.


It has been going on for decades, openly discussed among pro-palestine activists in the US since the early days of social media. One of the first and most reliable "mainstream" users of reddit was israel posting "idf thirst traps" though that nomenclature didn't exist for it back then.

I was a mod of a few semi-popular subs back then and we'd get bombarded by requests to remove comments critical of israel in those threads. A few times messaged by state employees under their real names making their case for a pro-israel mod stance. This was like circa 2008-2011, real ron paul le bacon atheism obama days.


Terrifying. Thank you for sharing your story.


This is extremely well known and the tooling has been in place and optimized for years.

Usually it is aimed at “correct” targets so nobody cares.


It's literally been in the headlines off basically any news outlets for the last few months.


Actually, the fact that Gazans are far better off than Syrians and other Arabs in other conflicts is rarely discussed. Israel is required to destroy Hamas in Gaza as the US was required to destroy Germany and Japan. But Israel has been using hi-tech weaponry rarely discussed even on HN, a tech website. For example, Iron Sting, a mortar guided by both GPS and laser is used even at night so that when a Hamas terrorist emerges from tunnels, they are immediately blown up. This helps to preserve Gazan civilian lives but not discussed in the media.

Iron Sting Mortar | How it Works | Israel Gaza https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UueA6HIA0Pg

Rarely mentioned by the media is that Hamas builds command and control centers under hospitals intentionally putting civilians in harms way.


They should use more of these smart rockets, because so far their dumb ones have leveled Gaza and killed over 10,000 children.


I would argue free speech is much more preferred as a citizen of one of these countries as too many are walking around convinced their understanding of facts is truth when it is in truth not.

Free speech is a necessity learned from the past horrors of fascism.


Fascism is literally being empowered today by unrestricted free speech in Western societies - something Western "liberal" politicians are constantly shouting from the rooftops. Nazism took root in the Weimar Republic essentially unmolested. The Germans censor Holocaust denial today. And you're telling me the lesson learned from all this is the virtue of free speech?


If this "Iron Truth" is a smoke screen to remove any information that is true and sympathetic to Palestinians through mis-categorizing and mis-labeling and that is not hateful then it is a system of oppression and must be stopped.


Ok, now what if it is about removing false information?

Do you support it now?


If you look at the original article what they're looking for is a mix of false information but also things rebuking false things stated by the IDF. Such as the 40 beheaded babies. That's not false information, it was a lie spread by the IDF.


Is it possible Starlink satellites are providing non-publicly known functionality at those (and other) frequencies to military and/or government agencies?


TFA won't load for me, does it list the frequency or show spectragraphs?


I will be unsubscribing once this is live.


Can you please elaborate on this statement? How did you determine this?


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