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What they should do, actually, is sue the EU for harassment in the US, like 4chan and the kiwifarms did with the UK. And then the EU can start firewalling X. Firewall everything bad, age gate everything, throw up the great firewall of the EU. I need Brussels to protect my freedoms.


> why is 70kb of source code a problem?

It isn't but then everyone does it and then everyone does it recursively and 70kb become 300MB and then it matters. Not to mention that "well constructed, well tested, well distributed" are often actually overengineered and poorly maintained.


Where were you in the last 6 years? Ah, I see, people you didn't like were being censored so you didn't care.


you must understand that your country is basically a uniparty that allows vigorous debate in a very zone of ideas (to paraphrase Chomsky), e.g Biden allowed the genocide to continue for as long as he was in office. Your country is basically subservient to Capital and the Israeli lobby.

The lesson to draw from Gaza is that if you become inconvenient to "the people in power" tomorrow, you would meet the exact same fate.


Exactly, it's laughable that this is coming from the same people who cheered on auto de-monetization for even mentioning the word "Covid" in a YT-video or the countless de-platforming and de-banking of individuals. Is this still gaslighting or something else?


Google didn't censor covid-related conspiracies or whatever at the behest of the government. YouTube can censor whoever it wants but the US government cannot.

Also, do you have any actual evidence of political debanking in the US? I can't find any references to it other than the propaganda of the current administration.


I don't know anything so I tried searching. This was th first result.

https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/google-admi...

Make of it what you will.


Google’s employees didn’t mention government pressure earlier and the company only started talking about that in conjunction with their PR plan to get favorable treatment from the current administration:

https://www.wired.com/story/republicans-claim-biden-censored...


of course. of course. this is the only possible reason.

right.


Version 1 was never licensed to anyone. Version 2 was only licensed to universities for an undiscolsed price. Version 3 was sold as a book, I think this is the version you are referring to. However note that this version contained a license that only allowed non commercial uses of the source code. It also came with no support, no community and no planned updates (the project was shelved half a year later in favor of inferno)

More than the price tag the problem is that plan 9 wasn't really released until 2004.


Hopefully this will give people pause the next time they think about linking to https://xkcd.com/1357/.


Why would it? The key difference is businesses / people making choices and the government coercing businesses / people to make choices the government wants. One is a first amendment violation, one is exercising the first amendment.


A company with significant coercive power (through sticky market effects) is much better thought of as a governmentesque censoring entity rather than some mere group of individuals exercising their individual speech. What you're describing is not a virtue of the first amendment, but rather a shortcoming of its implementation and a subsequent failure to properly regulate corporations/LLCs/etc. OP is right - people's ready embrace of corpo-authoritarianism when it lined up with their social mores set the stage for where we are at now. That comic has always been a low point of Munroe's.


This is a long winded way of ignoring the fact that this is government coercion, something the 1st amendment was designed to prevent. What you're talking about is _not_ something the 1st amendment was designed to prevent.


No, I am most definitely not ignoring or downplaying that.

> What you're talking about is _not_ something the 1st amendment was designed to prevent.

Yes, in fact I explicitly acknowledged it as a "shortcoming of its implementation".

What I'm taking issue with is your whitewashing corporate censorship as "exercising the first amendment" in your first comment.


> What I'm taking issue with is your whitewashing corporate censorship as "exercising the first amendment" in your first comment.

It read more as equivocating completely different things, one of which is much more serious. The fact is "corporate censorship" is not a 1st amendment issue.


Ask yourself who is more legitimized to take such enforcement actions: a handful of privately owned corporations acting in concert or a democratically elected government?

No, the "first amendment only applies to government" is cope of the highest degree, it was always a cope.

You accepted that an oligopoly could dictate what you could do with devices you owned because it suited your preferences and now that you are on the other side of the sword you squirm.

The correct answer was neither all along.


XKCD's point stands as long as nobody has a monopoly on an important medium. Apple and Google effectively do have a duopoly on mobile app distribution, and mobile apps are an important medium for speech in 2025.


From the first part of your comment, it directly follows that neither Apple nor Google has a required monopoly on the important medium.

IMO, we need to stop thinking in this broken paradigm of "-opolies" (with its loaded requirement to define what constitutes a given "market") and look at the actual coercive power they wield through market stickiness. Apple and Google both wield much coercive power with regards to software running on mobile devices.


That does seem to be what the EU is trying to do with its "gatekeeper" classification.


I am all for letting low effort labor exploiters create low effort comics. Same as I am for my having no obligation to support them directly by reading their comics.

Entertainers are a kind of contemporary secular faith healer and tribal shaman, imo.

To mix metaphors, stopped clocks who can be right and worth listening to only in very specific situations.


> 2800 day streak here, primarily in Finnish. I haven't been a fan of the app for a long time, but the problem I've always had switching is the question: What else?

Something from this list https://comprehensibleinputwiki.org/wiki/Finnish or reading with lute if everything there is too advanced.


I think you are reading that wrong, go.sum isn't a list of dependencies it's a list of checksums for modules that were, at some point, used by this module. All those different versions of the same module listed there, they aren't all dependencies, at most one of them is.

Assuming 'go mod tidy' is periodically run go.mod should contain all dependencies (which in this case seems to be shy of 300, still a lot).


> Or you can look at apartheid and post apartheid South Africa - when the political structure flipped, so did the academic scores of the groups

Do you have a source for this. As far as I can verify this is not true, the gap in achievement persisted and the cause is usually attributed to the legacy of apartheid.


> capitalism + technology relies on unpaid, voluntary labour

You are falling into the breadtube trap of faulting capitalism for a societal issue that has nothing to do with it. Did capitalism force people to have productive hobbies? Would you prefer a system, other than capitalism, that prevented people from having productive hobbies?

Often times this error relies on the assumption that capitalism is what's preventing us from having an "idealized" version of communism that I've heard aptly described as Gay Luxury Space Communism, where anyone can do anything they want and society just magically pays for it. The problem is that GLSC isn't real, we'd need ~infinite resources to do it.

I personally blame this problem on charities. This is the type of problem that charities and foundations should solve but there is no safeguard for charity money actually going to the charity's cause of action, instead the moment you create any kind of non profit it transforms into Non Profit (inc) and all the money it received goes to (1) professional non-profit people for the job of raising money and redistributing it, (2) shuffled to other non-profits, (3) thinly disguised political activism.


I wish I could +1 this many times over. Mozilla and Wikipedia are two great examples of this... so much of the expenses are diverted to busy work and so much less to the added value to society.


It is funny how you recognize the "breadtube trap", yet you are so invested in the "no alternative" ideology.


Maybe it would help if you articulated it even a little bit.


The European Union needs to immediately build its own sovereign ecosystem where its citizens will finally be able to enjoy the full protections of EU regulations, such as chat control, digital ID laws and censorship of vaguely defined "hate speech".

We need to fight the Washington fashists who want to deprive us of our "democracy with european characteristics".


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