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Nested.com | Data Engineer | London | ONSITE https://nested.com/

Data is at the heart of everything Nested does - from our customer facing automatic valuation model to the tools our team uses internally.

We’re looking for someone to help us develop the foundations we already have into world-class data infrastructure capable of supporting production quality product features. We’re also looking for someone who can play a central role in our research and development programme to improve our data models on an ongoing basis.

We believe in fewer, better people and you will join our small, extremely talented London based team, backed by Europe's leading investors. We have experience of founding successful start-ups like GoCardless and Songkick and backgrounds from McKinsey and the Universities of Oxford and Cambridge.

We would love to hear from you if you’re interested! Please send your CV and a link to anything else you think might be relevant to work@nested.com.

More info at https://nested.workable.com/jobs/395002


Nested.com | Software Engineer | London | ONSITE https://nested.com/

We are an ambitious new company started by founders of GoCardless and Songkick and backed by some of the world's leading investors and entrepreneurs. We believe in the value of fewer, better people and are looking for a skilled engineer to join our small, extremely talented and product-oriented London based team.

On a day-to-day basis you will:

- Develop the core consumer facing product, which currently uses Ruby, Python and JavaScript. This will require rapid, agile iteration based on customer feedback and metrics.

- Develop tools to support our internal operations team.

- Work closely with our designer to implement a high quality, modern front end experience.

We would love to hear from you if you’re interested! Please send your CV and a link to anything else you think might be relevant, such as your personal website or GitHub profile, to work@nested.com.

More info at https://nested.workable.com/jobs/403118


Nested.com | London | Onsite | Fulltime | UX & Analytics | https://nested.com/

Our product will be the source of our long-term advantage. We are looking for someone to help us understand what our customers want and build a truly great user experience that delivers it.

We believe in fewer, better people and you will join our small, extremely talented London based team, backed by Europe's leading investors. We have experience of founding successful start-ups like GoCardless and Songkick and backgrounds from McKinsey and the Universities of Oxford and Cambridge.

On a day-to-day basis you will:

- Dig into product usage metrics in order to improve conversion;

- Speak to customers in order to understand how they are using the product and uncover insights on how we better enable this;

- Work with all functions in the business to help engineering scope out and prioritise product features.

We would love to hear from you if you’re interested! Please send your CV to work@nested.com. (More info at https://nested.workable.com/jobs/376830)


Nested.com | London | Onsite | Fulltime. https://nested.com/

We are an ambitious new company started by founders of GoCardless and Songkick and backed by some of the world's leading investors and entrepreneurs. We believe in the value of fewer, better people and are looking for a skilled engineer to join our small, extremely talented and product-oriented London based team.

On a day-to-day basis you will:

- Develop the core consumer facing product, which currently uses Ruby, Python and JavaScript. This will require rapid, agile iteration based on customer feedback and metrics.

- Build technology to support sophisticated machine learning algorithms. You don’t necessarily need past experience in these areas, but there are plenty of opportunities to get involved in the theory if you’d like to learn.

- Work closely with our designer to implement a high quality, modern front end experience.

We would love to hear from you if you’re interested! Please send your CV and a link to anything else you think might be relevant, such as your personal website or GitHub profile, to work@nested.com. (More info at https://nested.com/software-engineer)


Nested.com | London | Onsite | Fulltime. https://nested.com/

We are an ambitious new company started by founders of GoCardless and Songkick and backed by some of the world's leading investors and entrepreneurs. We believe in the value of fewer, better people and are looking for a skilled engineer to join our small, extremely talented and product-oriented London based team.

On a day-to-day basis you will:

- Develop the core consumer facing product, which currently uses Ruby, Python and JavaScript. This will require rapid, agile iteration based on customer feedback and metrics.

- Build technology to support sophisticated machine learning algorithms. You don’t necessarily need past experience in these areas, but there are plenty of opportunities to get involved in the theory if you’d like to learn.

- Work closely with our designer to implement a high quality, modern front end experience.

We would love to hear from you if you’re interested! Please send your CV and a link to anything else you think might be relevant, such as your personal website or GitHub profile, to work@nested.com. (More info at https://nested.com/software-engineer)


To be clear, it's not an auto-reject, it's an early warning mechanism.

I see the relationship between MBAs and cluelessness as one of correlation not causation.


If you find a correlation between MBA and cluelessness then I would either doubt your sample size or your methods. Be very very careful in any kind of statistical fashion to allow anecdotal evidence to cloud your opinion.

People who think there's a correlation with MBA's and cluelessness are themselves, just as clueless.


He's not saying MBAs are generally clueless. He's saying that fresh MBA grads are clueless about startups, which is something they haven't been trained for.


I totally agree. As I said in the original post:

"I am not trying to argue that there is no place for MBAs, or that no MBA has a clue about startups – both of those are demonstrably untrue. Also having an MBA itself is clearly not the problem."


The title should be "Why we have never hired someone who wants to be a Product Manager". The MBA angle/title is total link-bait and a cheap way of stereotyping anyone. These type of posts, in the past year, have turned HN into the perfect example of double standards.


No, I think it's a real issue.

The typical routes out of MBA programs are managerial or consulting roles. That's great; the degree was designed to give future managers a broad, intellectual understanding of business as practiced by large American corporations.

Startups don't have those roles. At all. If you've hired right, everybody has smart opinions and nobody needs much management. What you need is people who can get things done right now. People with experience in designing interfaces, in interviewing users, in banging out prototypes, in running ad campaigns.

MBA programs teach a lot of great stuff. But none of my friend with MBAs got significant hands-on practical experience there.


"The typical routes out of MBA programs are managerial or consulting roles." How does this sound: "The typical route for a CS grad is a job as a software engineer at SAP". Get it?

As a startup founder let me just say that NO degree prepares you for a startup. I guess you are right on one thing, the common denominator: "People with experience" - with my caveat of: regardless of your background. Your comment comes across like a double standard - which I do mention out above.


I don't get your point. Is there a problem with fresh CS grads expecting to end up in strategic roles at startups? If not, then I'm not seeing why the analogy is relevant.

From what I've seen, fresh developer grads expect to take entry-level positions. Fresh MBA grads generally don't; they expect to be listened to as high-level advisors or managers. That is not an unreasonable expectation, in that their programs train them for that.

Another way to look at it: It's well-known that large-company execs often adapt poorly to working at startups, partly because they are used to having other people around to do the actual work. An MBA trains people for that sort of large-company position, so it's unsurprising that people fresh out of MBA programs would have the same issues.


Lets agree to disagree. Clearly your experience and views differ from mine. I'll give up and believe that all MBAs love the red carpet, join startups simply to "strategize" in their $900 chairs, and sing the Kumbaya while developers do the grunt work. This back and forth is a total waste of everyone's time.


A sarcastic, straw-man flounce is definitely a waste of time. The "agree to disagree thing" only works if you do it graciously.


No sarcasm here, I'm simply looking at things from your point of view, based on speculation and acts of faith.

Looking through your comments on other threads I can see that you clearly have an "agenda" against MBA grads. Looks like a smart way of using your time. Good luck with that <- this, sarcasm.


The "I'll give up and believe" was obviously sarcastic. Your interpretation of my position was a straw man, bearing little relationship to what I actually think. I don't believe it was a sincere attempt to look at things from my point of view.

I don't have an agenda against MBA grads; many of my friends have MBAs. What I have an agenda against is parts of what the MBA programs teach, and the sense of entitlement that many fresh MBA grads either started with or caught at school.

I have this agenda because I believe both are causing real harm to people, and to America as a whole. E.g., what a brace of MBAs did to the Simmons Mattress Company: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/05/business/economy/05simmons...


I have no vendetta. It is simple pattern matching:

I receive lots of applications every day. When nine out of ten that share one common characteristic (MBA), share another (no understanding of how they could add value in an early stage startup), you begin to connect the dots.


It's not that I won't look at any MBA but that when I do I'm watching out for particular things. When nine out of ten apps that display a particular attribute share or lack another common attribute, that seems like a sensible response.

Like you say, the key is the ability and desire to execute.


I actually knew this. I should have mentioned it. As I said: any argument that "no MBA has a clue about startups...[is] demonstrably untrue".


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