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Tried it when I was in Chicago. If you enjoy bitter amari like Cynar or Averna you won't find this particularly especially bracing. It's an interesting local curiosity, but it's sort of _just_ bitter with not much else in terms of flavour.


Even someone who has never had an amaro might enjoy Cynar (artichoke; powerfully vegetal with a sweet finish, refreshing in a lot of the way a slice of cucumber in water is) or Averna (orange and anise, what's not to like?). If you take a sip of Malort and your brain doesn't immediately scream POISON, something is wrong.


That's interesting, because I would consider Malört substantially more bracingly bitter than Cynar or Averna.


The problem with malort isn’t the bitter, it’s the lack of quality.

I love amaros and bitter liqueurs, but malort is a hard pass.


Not sure if it’s still around but there was a local bartender there who made his own high quality version of Malört. You could find it at a few distributors around called “franklins malort” but I heard they got a cease letter and then renamed it to “bësk”. Compared to the jepesens was like bud light to a craft brew. Way better balance, still the bitter grapefruit, but also with a ton of other aromatics and spices. That stuff was delicious.


Leatherbee (iirc) made one; they had it at Publican for awhile. Here's the problem: Malort is a Bask, which is its own whole kind of digestif. If you make a Malort-like Bask on purpose, as opposed to finding it in a puddle in the basement and bottling it like Jeppson's did, what you come up with will probably be fine. I remember not hating the Leatherbee stuff (but it was incredibly high ABV and we all got pretty messed up on it).


I get what you're saying, but it's merely because Trump has shown that he's easy to manipulate and can basically be bought. If it were any other Republican coming into office this wouldn't be happening. Not to spout off too much, but as usual, the right shows that all of their nonsense posturing is just projection. "Drain the swamp, stop government corruption", and yet the powerful are literally buying Trump's support.


> because Trump has shown that he's easy to manipulate

If he is easy to manipulate then why didnt Democrats manipulate him and then win the election?


Harris certainly baited and manipulated Trump on the national debate stage

There were/are a lot of people manipulating him on the Republican side which outweighs anything the Democrats could have done


> Harris certainly baited and manipulated Trump on the national debate stage

and yet she lost, so who baited who?


Harris baited Trump on the debate stage, the later outcome does not change this fact, as that was determined by other factors and around 100k voters


And if you look to places like Meixco City and Bogota, their bus rapid transit is very fast and efficient. But good luck taking away a single lane of traffic for dedicated bus services anywhere in the US.


https://maps.app.goo.gl/MrLLq1V4acKnG3RVA

This road right here in a west coast US city used to be four lanes of car traffic (two in each direction), but two (one in each direction) were taken out and dedicated for bus service.


According to Google street view, the road had 3 general car lanes per direction up to and including Nov 2016.

Shortly after, the middle lane of each direction became a bus-only lane, but this was implemented with temporary road modifications. (So each direction has 1 bus lane and 2 car lanes.) The middle part of the road was rebuilt from 2019 to 2020, making this feature permanent.


Yet there’s now 6 lanes? So they didn’t take out two lanes for bus traffic?


My guess at what it will look like:

* Ruthless budget cutting. Import social programs that (purely by coincidence) don't alight with the far right's ideology will be cut because e.g. only 1% of the population uses them, ignoring that 1% of the population is still 3 million odd people.

* Lots of brain drain. There are good people in government. I suspect the good ones won't much enjoy being told that they're morons who are wasting everyone's money. The actual morons won't care much, and the people doling out the firings won't be around long enough to figure who is who.

* Some low hanging fruit that requires a dictatorship and wide-ranging mandate to achieve. There's definitely inefficiency in government that can be solved by pointing everyone in the same direction and telling them their jobs are on the line. But not that much. I'm sure much fanfare will be made of what is solved though.

* Lots of corruption, cronyism and people under-qualified for their roles but over-estimating their abilities. This is a playbook we've seen from Trump and from Elon "I looked at Twitter's code for 5 seconds and instantly made 100x improvements' Musk. Thankfully, government projects span years or decades, so the effects of these terrible contracts and inexperienced leaders will be felt for years to come.


Doesn't sound like the author has any idea what issues plague them, based on what I read. Lots of plausible sounding ideas in this thread, if a therapist helps them figure out which ones are accurate, money can (probably) help them make the changes.


My read was they meant a fork as in a GitHub repository fork, used to fix bugs and then submit them to upstream. This isn't a fork of the language, it's a mechanism to enable collaboration. However 'to the casual observer' could be taken to mean 'someone who doesn't understand that GitHub forks are not language forks' and they'd end up in strife. Seems like a reasonable objection to me based on the letter of the law.


Your assumption is reasonable, but the author clarified on reddit that they had a much more expansive definition in mind. They want more than what is explicitly granted by the MIT License (the right to "deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, and/or sell copies of the Software").

They want the right to fork, call their fork Rust and compete with the main repo for users. When asked how having multiple competing repos all claiming to be Rust would be beneficial to the Rust community they had nothing to say.


> When asked how having multiple competing repos all claiming to be Rust would be beneficial to the Rust community they had nothing to say

Being able to call the commands of a fork rustc, cargo etc would allow trivial drop-in replacement in case the official toolchain takes a bad turn (for example with analytics).

Furthermore, being able to use Rust in your fork's name (e.g. g-b-Rust) makes discovering better forks a lot easier, as opposed to the names insanity with Firefox derivatives

There's just little benefit for the public in this Mozilla's fixation with trademarks, open source thrived for decades without it (I know that Rust is not in Mozilla anymore, but the legal culture evidently persisted)


Google maps has this natively in Japan which was great for travelling there


Very interesting. Particularly their notion (paraphrasing) that SWEBOK attempts to record generally recognised knowledge in software engineering while excluding knowledge about more specific subdomains of software.

That over-deference towards general knowledge coupled with some sort of tie to a similar Australian effort probably explains why the software engineering degree I began in Australia felt like a total waste of time. I remember SWEBOK being mentioned frequently. I can't say I've gotten terribly much value out of that learning in my career.


I am guessing that you didn't get value out of it probably because you didn't work in avionics, medicine, defense, etc? Those industries where a software fault is unacceptable and has to work for decades.

In some industries like avionics and medical instruments, the programmer might be personally held responsible for any loss of life/injury if it could be proven.

Having read Software Engineering and Formal Methods 25 years ago, I could say that IEEE leans heavily towards SE like it is a profession.

It is not going to be appealing to the crowd of Enterprise developers who use Python, Javascript, Web development etc.


> In some industries like avionics and medical instruments, the programmer might be personally held responsible for any loss of life/injury if it could be proven.

If you aren't a PE, it's hard to hold you personally responsible unless they can show something close to willful, deliberate misbehavior in the development or testing of a system even in avionics. Just being a bad programmer won't be enough to hold you responsible.


If your software kills someone (by mistake), personal guilt is a punishment one never completes.


The SWEBOK will not reduce the number or severity of software faults; it probably increases both.


It's much easier to find a group of Adventists that have an above average lifespan because Adventists form a community. People with blue eyes or people who are left handed who live in the same county don't all know each other and discuss their statistically insignificant longevity


Doesn’t county or town/cities (doesn’t know the diff in US) counts for "communities", and aren’t those separated in groups while doing national stats? The dice rolling groups are obviously here and have probably been surveyed many time, didn’t they?


Kudos to the author for trying this. My approach would be to ignore the junk recipes online and see if there are any patents that describe the process. I'll have a look when I have time.

My guess would be that there's some industrial process that completely separates any yeast from anything else so as to remove any potential hop bitterness. And that there's also likely been some updates to the process over the years. It may have started out as boiling things down in the 1920s, but may have moved on to an enzyme catalyzed process these days?

On the idea of using a stout: you will end up with even more bitterness than the version you made, more than likely. Stouts (especially higher alcohol stouts) tend to be fairly generously hopped compared to a standard light lager, in order to balance the sweetness of the added malt. You just don't taste them as being super hoppy because a) the hops are added early in the boil for bittering and most of the volatile aromas boil off, and b) because, well, they're doing their job of balancing the sweet malts to make the beer not taste sickly sweet.


Author here! Thanks, though the kudos really goes to the friend who followed up on the idea of doing it and asked me to pop round in the afternoon and make some.

Re process, the linked video talks about using a centrifuge to separate the yeast and liquid, and in fact improvised a home-made centrifuge using a washing machine. It’s possible that simply skimming the top of a settled mixture is not nearly as effective and yeast contamination led to some of poor flavor notes.

As for stouts: noted, thanks, looks like I need another approach. The main reason was not just bitterness but colour: to start with a dark liquid to get a black end product. Any thoughts on how both Vegemite and Marmite end up so black?


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