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We're likely to use it in the future to choose the right provider and plan. However, I would definitely want to see DigitalOcean and Linode here.


Thanks for the input, will add them to the list of cloud providers.


"We spend the time and energy searching all over the web for cheaper reservations for you", are you really spending time on searching things manually? If so, I wouldn't pay anything for such a service, because you may apparently go on holiday and don't care about my reservation. If all is automatic, then I could go for it. However, then "spending time and energy" is a lie.

I believe anyone should be able to submit their reservation, along with credit card details. If you do find the cheaper rate somewhere, you charge them at that point and present with the offer.

BTW, A typo: we can try to ehysave you money.


Typo fixed, thanks!

As for the automatic it is partially automatic. As we're gauging interest right now we haven't fully automated it.

For the pricing we're looking into different options such as taking only a %'d of amount saved, only charging if we save you money, etc. We'll be doing some testing in the very near future on different pricing models.


Congrats on shipping. :) As others have mentioned, I was turned off by the pricing model. Your idea of taking a % of amount saved, or charging me after you've achieved savings would be much more palatable.

That said, if you have the data for it, it would be awesome to show some proof that this is a widespread thing - that prices do fluctuate regularly and there are these drops in price people can take advantage of - if they are using your service. I think that would help your case.


CPU time and electric energy :)


VirtKick is open source, the code is on GitHub: https://github.com/virtkick


Leanstack.io was extremely useful for discovering services. Needed best A/B testing tools? I used to go to Leanstack. I don't seem to find any reason to visit Stackshare. I don't really care whether Twitter uses Zendesk or Freshdesk.


StackShare has even more tools and services than Leanstack did, with more ways to discover them. Perhaps our messaging needs some work. StackShare is still very much about finding the best tools: http://stackshare.io/mobile-a-b-testing. Would love to hear your feedback, shoot me an email if you're up for it: yonas [at] stackshare.io.

EDIT: Just noticed you're behind Virtkick. Funny enough we just listed you last night: http://stackshare.io/virtkick


That's indeed extremely funny. I spotted it some time after I wrote the original post, then started writing my auto-trolling reply to self. ;)


I found the reason to visit Stackshare real quick. I just checked today's Analytics of my startup https://www.virtkick.io - 20% visits originates from stackshare, so I now have to claim it. ;) Quite funny, I tell ya.

It doesn't change the main concern, though. leanstack.io was the greatest site to find services.


I'm sorry but we missed your comment. Just created an issue to track this problem: https://github.com/virtkick/virtkick/issues/65 Please subscribe to the issue so you'll get the updates.


Cloud Foundry is a self-hosted Heroku. Both are PaaS (but it's you who provide the "P" with the former).

VirtKick is a self-hosted DigitalOcean. Both are very simple IaaS (but it's you who provide the "I" with the former)

Does it explain?


Yes. Quite clear actually too.

My follow-up then would be how would this compare to OpenStack? If they serve the same purpose, where do you want to differentiate from OpenStack?


Thanks, can't wait!


Frankly, there are two mutually exclusive camps: free software and open source. I myself sympathize with free software (GPL) whereas RushPL with open source (MIT). Selling proprietary versions has never been the reason for CLA, though! We want to be able to re-release VirtKick under MIT (and automatically get rid of CLA) if we get funded, so businesses have no problems with it. (See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8527999)


Selling proprietary versions has never been the reason for CLA, though! We want to be able to re-release VirtKick under MIT (and automatically get rid of CLA) if we get funded, so businesses have no problems with it.

So selling proprietary versions isn't your goal, but allowing the code to be used in proprietary versions is?

You're walking a very fine line here. One so thin I wouldn't fault anyone who said it doesn't even exist.


It's not our intention though, see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8527999


What one regards as a feature, other regard as misfeatures. If you like virt-manager, then VirtKick isn't really for you. We value a simple UI more than virt-manager, and REST API more than virsh. We don't say your way is wrong. It's just more difficult.

Existing libvirt clients, at least those that we know of, aren't super reliable though. libvirt stucks when there's too much happening on the HV, or denies jobs without even trying (e.g. when a pool has async jobs). A backend that schedules tasks for background execution is needed for that (and we have it), so even now we're not "just" a frontend for libvirt.

The use case is a very simple panel with zero virt knowledge needed to start.

Thanks for your comment.


> so even now we're not "just" a frontend for libvirt.

I would certainly prefer that virtkick was 'just a frontend' for libvirt. Then the people who are making use of virtkick can seamlessly rely on the huge amount of existing software that supports libvirt. You can provide a REST API that is translated to the existing libvirt API rather than replacing it.

If you have task-scheduling improvements for libvirt, they should be upstreamed rather than only exist in your software, so everyone can benefit from them.


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