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There is not an EPYC 7xx4. EPYC 8004 is Siena. We reviewed an ASRock Rack Siena platform this week actually.

We had this in the Genoa launch piece but AMD largely kept $/core constant between Milan and Genoa. Milan is still being sold since it uses cheaper PCIe Gen4 motherboards and DDR4.

On the server side it takes a few quarters for new products to start making up the majority of shipments. These days it is better to think of new servers as N, N-1, and still some N-2 generations being sold as new.


Yea, it looks better for when we put it on screen in videos though.


Easy one would be the P part is single socket only.

I was browsing one day looking for barebones to throw in one of our clusters and saw Newegg was selling these 1U servers cheap ($2200-2300)

Usually with AMD desktop and server CPUs buying high core counts at lower TDP yields a great perf/ W figure


Actually the 7713 too (non-P, dual socket compatible) can be found for less than the 7C13, around $1500-1800:

https://www.newegg.com/p/2HE-001Y-000A5

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185284314106

https://www.ebay.com/itm/204640460566

Edit: from comparing https://www.servethehome.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/AMD-... and https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-epyc-7713 it seems the only difference is the 7C13 has a Configurable TDP (cTDP, hence the "C" in product name) that is lower: 165-225W (7C13) vs 225-240W (7713). This would explain why the 7C13 is a tad more expensive than the 7713.


Hey Patrick, thanks for your reply and for all your cool articles, love STH.

I've found the same thing even with old Xeon e-series v2, high core counts with low frequency parallelize fantastically. Cheers.


We bought Newegg out of all the new Tyan systems they had in stock. I was hoping to do a piece on them, but they must have had few in inventory


Good one. These presentations are like 30 min each so it is hard to stay on top of all of them.


Thanks. We will have more in a bit, and may not get to all of them. I was talking to lots of folks that came to say hi today. Trying to get at least a good portion of these done this week.


Thank you for your service. Between your coverage and Dr. Ian Cutress', we can pick up on announcements from events like Hot Chips with a lot more clarity than the PR speak the companies themselves put out.


I am not going ot post our own links, but last week we did the UM790 and we have the GTR7 Pro review coming as well.


Yes. I think that is a solid NUC alternative with one exception: the lack of USB4/ Thunderbolt as standard. Intel was very good about including TB on its NUC line and also did a better job upgrading to 2.5GbE.


Yes. We have done pieces on the BlueField-2 DPUs running Ubuntu and doing things like running ZFS and iSCSI off of the DPU's Arm cores as well. This is the BlueField-3 base, so a faster Arm core complex and more memory bandwidth.


It is hard to title since they are stopping servers, but not server CPUs.


"Exiting the server business" is unnecessarily ambiguous - "will no longer sell servers" would be an improvement.


'completed server systems' maybe? Something that makes it clear it is a complete computing device, not just the core component of one.


I would've gone with "prebuilt servers" or "rackmounted servers". Those are of course simplifications, but would make it a bit clearer that it's referring to specific server hardware and not servers entirely.


That would sound either like they are selling custom servers or kits, or they are selling servers in other form factors like towers which both Dell and HP have.


Maybe call them server units?


We are going to have a Dell PowerEdge review tomorrow. We call that a server or more than one servers not server units so that would feel strange to me.


I see, it's not easy to just call them "server units." Good to get input from those who actually use them.


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