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I would LOVE to hear what you think they collect. I’m sure it’s absolutely nothing, right?

Fuck off asshole.


We've banned this account, obviously.

Could you please stop creating accounts to break HN's guidelines with? It's in your interests to do so, because we're trying to have a community that stays interesting for everybody. Going down in flames gets boring pretty quickly.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


Why would facebook comply?


Why wouldn't a company of that size comply?


It’s an unnecessary cost and hurts whatever brand value remains.


Facebook is already given the NSA instant access to all their significant user data. Do you think they're doing that for free?


Maybe nostalgic folks over 30.


Canon


I wouldn’t call hyper object oriented languages like smalltalk, io, and ruby “better“, just different. The ABI is only a shortcoming if you value aesthetics over other considerations.


It's not just aesthetics. I mentioned the ABI issue because it is the technical reason why factories exist. Writing "new X" makes X part of the compiled code. This makes it impossible to swap X for Y and delete X later without breaking binary and even source compatibility. This is important for libraries and code reuse.

I don't think it is controversial to say those languages are better. A language with limitations that must be constantly worked around must be worse than a language without those problems.


Languages are only good or bad in the context of performing a task. Ranking them in abstract is a silly waste of time that engineers love to emotionally engage in.

The ABI is also important for performance! You aren’t making this comparison in good faith. You can easily acknowledge the entire trade off rather than just calling one better.


You're right. I acknowledge that languages do pay a price for their flexibility and dynamism: efficient implementation becomes much harder.


I also acknowledge that smalltalk has literally the dream ide and tooling. Ruby will take decades to catch up.


....what kind of behavior were you expecting? AirBnb has always had atrocious customer service.


I disagree. I've been both a host and customer for many years, and in general I've found the customer service to be good or even very good for resolving issues either as a host or as a customer.

In fact, many 'scare' articles about airbnb puzzle me, because it seem seems that the problems could have been avoided if the guest had read the reviews and/or booked with a superhost (or other host with a history of good reviews).

Having said that, I do think it's insane that the reviews are no longer listed in chronological order (or at least with the option to view them in chronological order).


> or other host with a history of good reviews

But how can I trust that the reviews are good if, as this article talks about, people are hesitant to post anything but good reviews for fear of receiving a retaliatory review?


Neither review is visible until both are done, so that's nonsense.


Uhm, that sounds even worse: so your bad review won't show up until a host responds, so they can simply decide not to, and your bad review never shows up.


No, because there's a fixed time limit to submit a review, afterwhich the review is posted irregardless. Hey, I guess airbnb put more than 10 seconds of thought into the design of the process, what do you know.


You act like people’s real names and contact information are not exchanged. AirBnb has no quality enforcement mechanism to protect your privacy, the quality of your stay, or the resulting fallout from a conflict.


The mechanism for preventing most bad stays is called the reputation system, which is based on reviews. As for exchanging real names, do you think the system would be improved if all participants were completely anonymous? There's a reason a hotel knows your real name and contact information as well. You sound like a troll.


> I've found the customer service to be good

Yea? Do explain your confidence.


Oh wow we could have avoided the entire Iraq war!


I think postmodernism leads straight to linguistics, not apathy. Much of politics is based around words like “democracy”, “freedom”, “the middle class”, “big government”. There is no truth around these things because they mean whatever is politically convenient in the moment. I mean sure you can define a pretty good general purpose term for your own use, but that’s not going to be how politicians use it. These should be seen as rhetorical terms, not inherently meaningful outside of the context of, say, a speech or and ongoing public discussion. It is far easier and cheaper to redefine yourself out of commitments than it is to actually stand for concrete values. The fix is to stand for concrete values that everyone can easily identify and discuss in concrete terms. It should be easy, then, to determine the difference between “waffling” and adjusting to a new situation because everyone can adjust together around a value consensus.

Note, PR takes literally the exact opposite tact to communication. We’re barreling deep into a post-truth world with an incredible amount of money fueling this. See also: non linear warfare, hypernormalization, Edward Bernays, why to buy a newspaper when it never makes money.


To be fair, working with text is really hard on mobile and has regressed a long way from general purpose computers like the pc. To undo you have to shake the fucking thing, and text selection takes time and patience (if you can select the text at all!)


Shake to undo and also shake to report a problem and also shake to report abuse.

It does different things in different contexts. I can see how this could be confusing.

vs.

Right click > copy; right click > paste

ctrl / cmd -c; ctrl / cmd -v

Which, in my experience, are (almost?) universal.

If your a keyboard native like me, you probably find text entry and editing on mobile fucking sucks.


Apple mice only had 1 button because they said they didn't want to confuse people. And nowadays? Multi fingered gestures, long presses, etc. What a shit show!


Hahahaha! Great comment.

To be fair though, expecting anyone to be consistent from one moment to the next is a pretty tall order ;)


You can use a laptop or desktop if you want. Obviously there are tradeoffs when you squeeze 3 sq ft of real estate down to 0.1 sq ft.


I don’t know how many times I’ve been frustrated at my iphone for not having any way to undo. Who thougt this was a good idea? There was a thread the other day about obscure iphone commands, but this takes the shaking cake.


I feel less dumb for not being the only one who didn't know this.


In iOS 13 it's worse, because they just changed all of it up. Now shaking and the old gestures for moving the cursor or getting the copy/paste menu don't work either. Instead it's three-finger directional swipes and pinches and long-touching a caret to pick it up and whatnot.

There are a couple of problems with that. One is that now instead of coordinating one finger you have to coordinate three, which may not be as easy for someone older. To be fair I think all of the gestures do have a simpler secondary alternative somewhere, but that brings the next issue.

iOS (and everyone else) quit documenting stuff a long time ago aside from in help snippets, over the idea that everything was "discoverable."

Aside from the core issue of expecting a user to "discover" complex and rarely-used gestures with no affordances, what happens when you "discover" they don't work anymore?

I guess you get to discover the help entry via Google, or find it in a Tom's Guide "35 things you didn't know you could do..." type article...once you finally realize they changed and that it isn't just you screwing it up.

We really need to create the equivalent of CUA for phone interfaces. Prior to that being broadly adopted, we had to deal with all kinds of variant menu structures and shortcuts in DOS-based and early GUI apps. After that, it was easy to move between things and (eliminating the entire freaking menu bar aside) things have stayed pretty stable since.


> Instead it's three-finger directional swipes and pinches and long-touching a caret to pick it up and whatnot.

Wait hold up. I've been on iOS13 for months now and been super frustrated with what I thought was a buggy copy/paste.

Are you telling me I was just doing it wrong?!


https://www.imore.com/how-use-text-editing-gestures-iphone-i...

Afraid so, but there you go. Only reason I found out earlier is I lucked across it in my news feed so don't feel too bad. It's pretty obnoxious they didn't have a transition period where both sets of gestures worked.


Most of the changes seem intuitive but the cut/copy/paste do not.

I’ll have to give it a shot once I upgrade.


Ok but sharing is easier. Click the share button and it will put the link into email or SMS or... Dropbox, whatever you got lying around on your phone.


Yes, of course!


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