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Yes, at least outside of the EU. However, companies don't seem to be developing for it yet, probably due to the investment not being worth it until similar laws are more widespread. However, Orion in also on macOS, which does allow other engines. And Kagi is developing Orion for Linux and Windows.


Comparing LLM responses to heroine is insane.


I'm not saying they're equivalent; I'm saying that they're both dangerous, and I think taking the position that we shouldn't take any steps to prevent the danger because some people may end up thinking they "want" it is unreasonable.


No one sane uses baseline webui 'personality'. People use LLMs through specific, custom APIs, and more often than not they use fine tune models, that _assume personality_ defined by someone (be it user or service provider).

Look up Tavern AI character card.

I think you're fundamentally mistaken.

I agree that to some users use of the specific LLMs for the specific use cases might be harmful but saying (default AI 'personality') that web ui is dangerous is laughable.


heroin is the drug, heroine is the damsel :)


You’re absolutely right!

The number of heroine addicts is significantly lower than the number of ChatGPT users.


I am with you. Insane comparisons are the first signs of an activist at work.


I don't know how to interpret this. Are you suggesting I'm, like, an agent of some organization? Or is "activist" meant only as a pejorative?

I can't say that I identify as any sort of AI "activist" per se, whatever that word means to you, but I am vocally opposed to (the current incarnation of) LLMs to a pretty strong degree. Since this is a community forum and I am a member of the community, I think I am afforded some degree of voicing my opinions here when I feel like it.


So the world's most embarrassing data leak, but "catastrophic" is stretching it.


Firefox market share is so low, it really seems more like a Chrome and Safari duopoly.


It's all Konqueror's fault, really.


I agree with the point this article is trying to make. As political definitions change, we start to lose sight of what these terms actually mean. I believe a more helpful comparison than left vs right, is open vs closed.

https://unherd.com/2018/07/open-vs-closed-rise-fall-left-rig...


Oddly, the article doesn't discuss the terms "open" or "closed" at all, much less what makes them uniquely resistant to be coopted and bastardized.

Edit: apparently that is in "part two" which isn't linked anywhere


The Kagi Search extension works perfectly well.


What is it about Grok that you expect to be so much better? Not disagreeing necessarily, just want to know your reasoning.


Better LLM seems to be about who has the most compute and data for training.

xAI has (by far) the most compute and data now.


I agree, but this limited to macOS and iOS. Not helpful to most people.


OP was asking for alternatives in funding, not just straight FF alternatives; I agree that Orion is not, at the moment, an alternative to FF!

/comment posted with FF on Windows


It’s trivial to change default search provider, not sure why Apple wouldn’t take the money. It’s still up to the user.


Defaults are powerful, most people don't notice or care


Defaults are quite literally worth about $18-$20bn simply in the iOS market.


Yeah. This is an understatement, and its not a weak statement.


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