+1 I don't understand why people work hard for such corporations. Doing the bare minimum, and quiet quitting should be the norm. I think if the execs can pay themselves $200M for taking the responsibility and being so horribly wrong about the direction they took the company in, then why shouldn't the rank and file employees do the bare fucking minimum that they are paid to do. Treat intellectual work the same as bagging groceries, do it from 9 to 5, only when sitting at the desk, and only for bugs that have been assigned. If the bug don't say "add an extra debug log" then don't add an extra debug log.

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> Doing the bare minimum, and quiet quitting should be the norm

Of course, it is the norm.

Any real idea, any real effort does what is absolutely number 1 on the forbidden, sacrilege, NEVER DO THIS list: it would upset the social balance in management. More than that, it would upset the balance in unpredictable ways.

> The fact is with moving technical roles to India quality plummets.

Of course your assessment of those who can literally steal your job from under you is fair and unbiased

Management is dumb if they think that. You can't announce year long continuous layoffs, and expect people to work hard. What will the hard working employees get in return if they get laid off? Most US Google Employees are smart people, they should know that now is the time to prepare to get off that tech island, and quiet quitting is the way.

RTO has been instituted and there not much you can do to prepare for a whole career change when in the office…

And esp for those with families they might be dependent on big tech comp to support their family in high CoL areas, else have to move their kids and school or make big lifestyle downgrades

Management holds the cards and they know it. Lesson for workers is to live way below your means while you still can

Last I checked google was in hybrid mode. That is 3 days a week in office max. Also, Last I checked a week was 7 days. Lastly, its not whole career change. Switching from Google to Netflix as a software engineer is not a career change.

I disagree that management holds the cards. Jobs are being threatened whether you work hard or not. You can double your productivity and still be cut in the next round of layoffs (and suffer burnout, stress, depression etc). In such a situation, it makes sense to quiet quit and prepare yourself for the time when you do get cut. Besides savings, the lesson here is to prioritize self over a job every day. In fact, if management did held the cards, they'd make the move that increases productivity and morale, not alienates the entire workforce.

Also I think those with families should be extra motivated to interview elsewhere in the current climate. They should be more scared of getting laid off and ending up jobless than having to move to another city with a new job.

> That is 3 days a week in office max. Also, Last I checked a week was 7 days.

Apparently weekends don't exist for you?

You go to office on weekends?

if you don't perform, then you get PIP'ed if you don't get PIP'ed, you'll get laid off

You will get laid off whether you perform or not is the general rule right now. Thus I feel the best move for employees is to prioritize and prepare for what comes after lay offs.

Seems like direct path to becoming IBM to be honest

Pretty sure google's new management would love to be IBM, it's the perfect fit for people like them.

IBM still makes cool things. Google serves ads.

> Because there are billions of people in Africa, India, Pakistan and so on. And you cant just let them all in.

> second tier countries

Maybe you didn't intend it, but your comment reads like you have an issue with immigrants of certain racial profiles. I'd suggest rewording, unless of course that was your intent behind the comment.

It also comes off as racist/supremacist to term certain countries as "second tier". Unless of course, that is intentional on your part.

> PIPs if utilized properly

that is a big IF

Just an anecdote, but when I was at amazon I saw more undeserved pips than deserved ones. Often I was left wondering why that person was in pip but not me. From my vantage point, they did almost as much, and as good work as I did. In the end, it was the quota that had to be fulfilled and they got unlucky.

Yeah. Its called quiet quitting. The difference is that legally a quiet quitter is still an employee and gets paid to do job search.

Someone is probably working on an ai bot for this

Which one did you get?

I ended up getting the Canon imageFORMULA R10 off of amazon but there are a few similar options. Does double sided scanning and I was able to load 24 pages at a time.