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People will always be reckless and I understand where this guy is coming from. I'm not surprised at all though. Why would he think a hip new company would be pushing safety over just having fun? New companies pushing boundaries have almost never been focused on safety.

Safety is extremely important and cold water kills, a lot. American Whitewater does a great job keeping track and you can see their stats here: https://www.americanwhitewater.org/content/Accident/view/

No PFD is number 2 and I'm pretty sure a large portion of that flush drowning number can be partially attributed to cold.


> New companies pushing boundaries have almost never been focused on safety.

This is a big reason why I skipped buying a OneWheel. They look like so much fun and I live near the beach where it would be easy to ride them on the sand. That said, too many videos on YT about them just randomly stopping and people going flying. I'll wait for other companies give them some competition in order to drive out better products (and lower prices) in the long run.


I used to ride a Onewheel. Another case where they need to show people using safety devices more. Some of their ads show people with helmets. You really need wrist guards too. A lot of the more intense riders I've met tend to be wearing motorcycle gear.

The real hidden danger of a One Wheel is if you're a non goofy footed rider in a bike lane. You're front is towards the side walk/parked cars, and your back is towards traffic in countries that drive on the right. I've been clipped by a car turning right who didn't see me and he was in my blind spot (directly behind my head).

There is actually a non Future Motion (Onewheel maker) maker of a similar device called the Trotter. It seems more companies prefer to make things in the ECU factor which is fair.


It's crazy how people only noticed that Onewheels are dangerous after a bunch of out of shape tech bros started buying them and treating them like toys.

They don't randomly stop, they're just inherently dangerous unless operated correctly.


Thanks for the huge laugh. "Unless operated correctly"... ha! Like that is something anyone can predict.

"Tech bro" Casey [0] [1] just did the NY Marathon [2]... he's not out of shape.

There are countless more videos on YT too [3] [4]. Heck, there are even little wheels you can buy to kind of try to help with the superman issues. Don't forget ghosting too.

No thanks. Enjoy your toy. I hope you don't get hurt.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ay5M82IcUI

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spdK6fAX0bc

[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lGLhhoIsNc

[3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G3ddOMvBws

[4] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZsTdgSVd0E


I'm sure I could find videos of people falling off of snowboards and bikes too, so I don't find accident compilations particularly compelling. Especially since I can tell you in pretty much every instance exactly what they did wrong.

Generally speaking if you don't have a background in boardsports it's probably safest to avoid powered boards altogether, no matter how many wheels they have.


Certainly, I can find people walking and falling down too. Heck, drinking water can be dangerous if you do it enough.

The point, which you're glossing over, is that this is a new company, there is only one of them and they have some seriously dangerous and well documented issues with their product, beyond just using it.

Just like the OP's comment that I'm responding to.


Just from skimming it, cold and wet-suits dry-suits are also mentioned in the video.

I see no reason Oru couldn't have shown people wearing proper gear. Unless they think proper gear is uncool, so they're setting bad and dangerous examples, harming the sport overall, for their own profit.


Its almost like there isn't an easy either/or scenario here. Life can't be broken down into such an easy phrase.

Most of the things I own are to enable experiences. I enjoy kayaking and backpacking. Is my kayak a thing or is my kayaking an experience. I'd say it fits both.


I found this strange too. I wonder if there is some other technical reason or just somehow didn't think of this in the validation?


Filemaker Pro is such a product but it looks like they just released the last version. Print companies use it like crazy but I've not seen it used anywhere else.


It used to be the Access of Apple shops.


My first job had a coworker who didn't know how to sort the spreadsheet. She printed it out and cut it into strips, then sorted them while watching TV at home in the evening, then taped it back together. I was shocked and in the decade or so after that I have yet to run into anything like that again.


My introduction to Office/office horror was a colleague writing her message in PowerPoint, attaching it to an email in Outlook and sending it through. It turned out to be a standard practice in the academic institution I was in.


Not quite the same, but in several community email lists, sending emails via a JPG or DOCX is the norm. Type it up in Word, and attach it to the email.


My institution's administration does this. Every message from them is typed in Word, then attached to an email whose body says "Please read the attached message". They do this for every message, no matter how trivial.

I asked them why they do this, but haven't received a reply, perhaps because my question was in an attached gzipped Postscript document.


If you paid attention during the last recession while foreclosures did skyrocket, those people did not end up out on the street. Many found other places to live or just stayed in that house until someone forced them to leave. Some people stayed in a house without paying a mortgage for years.

If it goes that direction again I see even more people just staying without paying anything. The banks don't have the resources to force everyone out and no one wants to buy that many properties in a lot of areas.


I literally do kayak off waterfalls and while some in the group will have a GoPro or similar generic camera, they just aren't that good for documenting a trip. Someone bringing their phone in a dry box and getting setup on the side of the river usually provides better footage and a better angle than having the camera on my helmet. I just don't see them that often except for the professionals who post on Instagram all the time.


People told me I was crazy when I said GoPro was going to be killed by cell phones. "No one would risk their iPhone". Except prior gen iPhones are pretty cheap now, cases have become very good, and the abilities far surpass the GoPro. Plus, someone can shoot, edit, and upload all from the same device.


If you scuba dive, there's no option even close to GoPro for the combination of accessories, price, stabilization (the iPhone is still not quite there, and the old ones are totally useless), video quality, and access to the controls under water. It shoots in a flat color profile, which the iPhone still doesn't, so grading color is super easy.

Editing and uploading from a phone is nice, but it stays on the boat when you drop in.


I totally disagree. The Kraken diving case is exceptional. I did 20+ dives with it in Micronesia this year and the photos are about as good as anyone is going to get without a DSLR. In fact, I was more limited by my lighting than by the camera.

It's also huge to have a screen as big as the phone's, and being able to slip the whole rig into my thigh pocket meant I took it on every dive, not just camera specific ones. I can't imagine a better setup for me.

Edit: You mentioned video. The Paralenz is a much better diving camera than a GoPro. It has a tubular form factor, making it easy to attach to a mask strap. It also is natively pressure resistant and can add depth numbers to your video, GoPros require a case. Here's a dive filmed with my Paralenz: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C1MEynCKlhk


The kraken case costs as much as a GoPro, iPhone stabilization isn't as good as GoPro stabilization, if you want GoPro-like wide angle shots you need to pair that case with a $1000+ phone. You're also limited to the capacity of your phone since essentially no phone has removable storage. Ditto battery, although with USB PD that's less of a problem. iPhones also don't shoot log color profile, so color correction is painful for video.

The paralenz can't shoot high frame rate, so slo-mo looks choppy and requires serious post processing. It's stabilization is a joke compared to the GoPro, it doesn't shoot flat color so color grading is painful, it has no screen for checking your framing, and it costs roughly twice as much.

Edit: the quality of the glass in the paralenz is also pretty painful, the vignetting in that video and dynamic range are pretty unfortunate.


Agreed. The GoPro is great for diving and snorkeling. There are better options out there but they cost a lot more usually.


Yes, there are people who do point-and-shoot photography with all kinds of equipment that they don't actually need. The iPhone also ̶c̶a̶n̶n̶i̶b̶a̶l̶i̶z̶e̶d̶ absorbed some of the DSLR market from point-and-shoot photographers who don't actually need DLSRs.

That doesn't mean that niche markets aren't real. It it not going to make any sense to mount an iPhone to my helmet any time soon.


There was a period when there were a lot of people buying DSLRs with the kit zoom lens, putting it on automatic, and snapping away. Maybe there was a period when this made some sense because of sensor size but it really doesn't today.

I've been doing photography semi-seriously for a long time and have a couple different camera systems (DSLR and mirrorless) and, to be honest, if I'm on a trip where I know I'm mostly just shooting casually I'll often just bring my phone.


> cannibalized

Apple doesn't sell DSLR, I think. Not cannibalism.


And if it's your own older iPhone, it's essentially free. Slip a waterproof case on it and you have a pretty rugged camera/GPS/etc.


I think the main thing people underestimate in general is the amount of setup you need to capture something interesting and the amount of editing afterwards you need to turn it into something that actually holds peoples attention.

I enjoyed doing it for a bit with backcountry skiing but kids meant reduced trips and no real energy to sit down and edit.


To be fair, GoPro absolutely recognises that - that's what their Quik client is for.


As another ww kayker, I like the helmet cam view for reviewing my technique/seeing rapids from first person. The video usually isn't sexy, and you need to remember that everything is way bigge irl, buy I've found some videos helpful.

Carnage videos of people swimming can also be fun/terrifying to watch from their pov.



Exactly. Anything with options on Amazon is a terrible user experience now. One hack I found is the mobile app will give you the price along with the option. Why the desktop site is now worse than mobile I don't know.


As with many things, the quantity matters. Too much of a good thing is not beneficial. If you over fertilize, it can "burn" the plant. That is why most dog owners will find dead spots in their grass where the dog prefers to pee.


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