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I have the same information, unless CF pays someone to lurk the Farms more than I do. Unlikely. This is a pretext plain and simple. Prince is full of it. There was one fedpost and it was taken down. It happens. There's no machine learning algo scanning new comments to see if they sound like plausible threats.


Lifetime of depression and multiple suicide attempts as well. If I ever do it, it'll be because I suffered my whole life, not because of the most recent thing that happened the week before.


He's been taken to court around 7 times. It's almost as if he didn't break the law, and people just think he must of because it be so nasty!


This is the same argument made by anti-free speech people defending companies that censor/deplatform.

Something can be legal and wrong. Sometimes the law is out of date with reality.


I don't want that to be a quasi-unilateral judgement.

Also, one question. Suppose we do change the laws, and Kiwi Farms continues to operate within those new laws. Will that be enough, do you think? Because the US would have to outlaw dead naming and misgendering for it to be enough for the activists.


Privacy protections should apply regardless of whether it's a megacorporation or a disorganized group of independent actors.

Most of the individuals targeted by Kiwifarms are not running for office, or own prominent businesses. They are for the most part unemployed nobodies who live at home. I don't see any public interest in naming these people.


Still really unclear what law is being broken in that case. Unless you're proposing new speech-curtailing legislation. They're Intenet-famous. They're of interest to forever-onlines. This one in particular is of interest to women and parents who've so far resisted brainwashing.


Of course not. It wasn't an actual threat, though it sounded like one. The mods handled it as soon as they became aware.


> what kiwifarms has been doing to "free speech"

What? Testing it? To make sure we can actually exercise it in practice? Because "be careful how you use it or you might ruin it for everyone" wasn't ever how the 1st amendment was meant to work. Like, what would be the point. Let's let the 1st amendment say you have to check in with anyone sensitive and if they don't like it, you can't say it, because "we live in a society" Let's have a new Mandatory Courtesy and Respect amendment.

I am so utterly ashamed of the tech industry at this point. I'm glad I retired and don't have to pretend to your faces.

"The Internet interpretes censorship as damage and routes around it." Oh how naive and libertarian us techies were in the reactionary nineteen hundred and nineties.


private companies have no obligation under the 1st amendment. violence and hatred have no place in this world or on the internet.

i'm ashamed of all the people who stand up and defend nazis, fascists, and cyber-bullying and doxxing. this isn't about sensitivity it's about vile human actions, and viewpoints like yours are what allowed for fascism to spread in europe, asia, and america.


Tell it to somebody who's already subscribed to that whole delusional ideology. Such as every other user in this thread.


"the threat"

Ever think the feds have half a brain among them, and know there's no threat?

I know how gullible people are in these culture-warish times, but I still hope you've lost credibility with some significant fraction of us. Maybe those of us old enough to remember when the average techy was libertarian and opposed censorship. The Farms is right back up, by the way. But at least now you can wash your hands of it. Don't think Twitter will stop coming at you though. You need to understand those people want to punish and teach.


I prefer not to distinguish weekends from weekdays. So every day is a mix of work, hobbies, and play.


Here's a late version of Encarta.

https://goo.gl/6uX4Qu

Do you see that plain-looking dropdown menu with the rounded orange highlights? That is Internet Explorer. Just this one menu. It's an in-process instance of Trident, IEs old HTML rendering engine. So that little window is the equivalent of somthing like chromium embedded. I don't know why that menu is an instance of IE's HTML renderer. Someone wanted to style it with CSS, I think. So they embedded IE. That flyout to the right is probably another Trident window. In order to meet accessibility requirements, I had to grab the running instance of the root IE COM interface, and route keyboard events into it. With raw C++ COM. There were other hooks going in the opposite direction so the menu / browser window could tell the app about clicks.


That is just insane. Separate rendering engines for each tab?


I can't remember how the flyouts worked. They might have shared a window, or they might not have been HTML windows (but I think they were). What I know for sure is that the one main dropdown was IE.


Glass/gradients was a baaaad trend in visual styles. Very plastic, cheap looking.


I made a game that has this design principle. The UI is all point-click and a few icons. But it presents things like: what you can do to the object in front of you, with the item in your hand. What you can do with items you have on hand. What you could do if you had an item that you know about. Hints about what you could do if you knew something you don't know yet. This is all distilled to a single icon with decorations, but computing it all correctly is quite involved.


Oh my god. It's astounding what becomes possible as we move further into this era when most digital activity gets archived for future mashups and other archaeology.

Here, I released this in 1996:

https://archive.org/details/msdos_Aspetra_1996

I knew people still played it, but I had no idea it had a freaking URL now!


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