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Pretty sure that is the reason. It's the phone equivalent of verifying an email. They ping, you pong, it goes on a list of verified numbers.


It isn't, though. Getting a ringing response is enough to validate a number, and someone who isn't making the effort to check contact lists against do-not-call registries won't be making the effort to track numbers that do not answer, either. In any case, RTNR to such people simply means that there's no-one to answer right now and is no reason to discard a number.

See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16871131 and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16873537 for what's actually happening.


They could invent it, but to most of us men, it's just going to look like a pre-existing red. We don't do color distinctions very well. We've got bright red, pale red, and in-between.


You'd probably notice if your five year old Ferrari faded to a pink.

> Red 254, aka Ferrari red, for example, is safe and popular, but it’s also carbon-based, leaving it susceptible to fading in the rain or the heat.


For something like this though, your Ferrari owner would probably not mind paying to give it a repainting every few years.


Actually, exotic car owners/buyers tend to be obsessed about keeping the original paint. It's a rare Ferrari owner who would be willing to have his car repainted at all.


Indeed. Tetrachromacy is real, and men are unlikely to enjoy the superpower:

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20140905-the-women-with-supe...


Tetrachromacy is real but vanishingly rare. However, I've read before that women have more bars and cones in their eyes than men & therefore better color reception, without being tetrachromatic.


I suspected my wife was a tetrachromat when we started debating what color something was. There are the "standard" arguments about is that blue or green or is that red or purple. But these were around yellow. Where she clearly saw two different yellows I could not distinguish them. She is unwilling to get the genetic test though, no matter how much I encourage her.


Is this something CRISPR could "fix"?


I mean, there's still a whole 50% of humans to market to in that case. Nevertheless, while men's color perception is typically worse, it's still good enough that a man with full color vision can see colors that humans can't reproduce faithfully.


it's about the pigment, not the color.


Well, sort of, I think. The thing is that these 'outsiders' don't have a fresh or independent take. They come packed full of previously established ideas and ways of thinking. I don't just mean preconceptions; I mean something like how ethnographies were found to employ very common tropes, or how so-called science documentaries misrepresent research by making a story look like a primetime detective show.

Why do think so many of these outside stories seem the same? The short answer is tropes. These don't only concern the forms any story can take, but also actually shape how one conceives of things.

Besides, the Bay Area employs more than 1M people just in sw/hw connected roles (engineers, product managers, project managers, operations, and testing). The outsiders look at a subgroup that represents less than 5% and equate that the tech industry out here.


Yes. Thank you. It’s not just the message or sentiment. It’s that it’s unoriginal and not introducing anything new worth debating


The city is just trying to ensure that the vehicles don't end up abandoned by riders all over the place. This has been a problem with bike and scooter services in many cities globally.

They are giving the companies plenty of time to respond with a plan to address that issue. They're not going to be shut down. They just need to be more responsible for the impact on public places, because we humans are sadly too self-focused to b conscientious.

Hell, the city will probably build more bike racks to accommodate them.


I think it’s bigger than that. There’s a massive FUD meme around dockless technology: the only time it’s in the news is to show the random landfills a few of them end up in, ignoring the 99% that have made millions of lives easier. Dockless bikeshare went from 0 to 200 million riders in just two years, in a country where everybody already owned a bike. This is a technology that makes cities more accessible in a way you can’t imagine til you experience it. But people point to a few left out of place and tell us it’s going to kill our grannies.


  a few left out of place
Dockless bikes are, by definition, all left out of place.


If only people could store them with ease at the side of the street; perhaps paying a fee while they use the land.

You could travel around the city, leave your bike there, and come back and continue your journey!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parking


  store them with ease at the side of the street; perhaps paying a fee while they use the land
Then it's no longer a sharing model; it's a "I want 24/7 control of a bike but only pay for while I'm riding it and park it anywhere without consequences" model.

Which would be handy, but it wouldn't scale well from a business standpoint.


For what it's worth that is exactly how car sharing works in my city and it's doing well, and growing.


> This has been a problem with bike and scooter services in many cities globally.

This is hilarious. People are mowed down by cars every day, but somehow scooters being left in annoying areas is the issue?


This isn't a case of a small and occasional nuisance. This _Atlantic_ piece has already been cited in-thread, but it deserves a re-airing:

https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2018/03/bike-share-oversup...

https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/photo/2018/03/b...

An image search turns up more instances:

https://www.google.com/search?tbs=imgo%3A1&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=...

And: for the record, I bike, and have done so for decades. It's fair to recognise real problems, however, and not trivialise or dismiss them uncharitably.



Dockless cars take much more space and even hit people every day. https://slate.com/business/2018/04/astounding-photos-capture...


It was only a good economy, in as much as government revenue was good, and in turn government services were good.

As soon as oil prices slumped, the economy started falling apart, and measures taken to mitigate the effect just made things worse.


All that context isn't needed. The relevant meddling in Central and Latin American has had two majors flavors:

1) the US manipulated, deposed, and built governments there for the last century, often triggering or at least backing civil wars. Much of this was done to further corporate interests, like The United Fruit Company.

2) During the Cold War, the US convinced the governments of the regions to retool their militaries as counter-insurgency forces to counter communist rebels.

Those set the stage for any number of oppressive regimes and wars.

The rise of Chavez could be seen as obvious, given the above, but Venezuela's specific problems today are due to Chavez' party and his successor.


FWIW, I went 30 years without being diagnosed as or medicated for Bipolar 2. Life was hell, physically tortuous even, and socially and financially devastating. Wrecked my life good. I was around 43, when I found out.

I completely understand getting set off. I don't know how many thousands of hours I've lost to excessive anger and irritation. The bitch of it is that there's usually a good reason to be angry, just not _that_ angry.

With the proper meds, life isn't perfect, but I have the kind of peace of which I dreamt for decades...and without being zombified. I can actually hold down a job.

Friends, roommates, and noise generated by other people, still a big no. I live alone up in the hills and wfh. I like it that way.

As for meds, should you try any again,

Forget lithium. The best mood stabilizer I know is Lamotragine. If you are in the US, fill your prescription through canadadrugs.com. It's too expensive in the US.

As for anti-depressants, the Serotonin-based drugs never worked for me, but I take Viibryd now, which isn't Serotonin-based.

As for ensuring that you sleep (I was an insomniac for much of 20 years), Trazadone is an old, cheap, and non-addictive sleeping pill. It has nothing to do with ephedrine or melatonin, and won't mess you up at all.


> around 43

late 30s here.

> there's usually a good reason to be angry, just not _that_ angry

i experience extreme anxiety more than rage

> Friends, roommates, and noise generated by other people

i am similar. thankfully my wife is a very quiet person.

> Viibryd

was on it for over a year -- didn't end well (weaned myself off after running out of insurance)


Just because common usage allows us to call two practices "growth hacks," doesn't mean they are the same in most or even many respects.

One is an automated, content stealing scheme for making easy money. The other involves techniques by which you can promote your brand through your own content.

Just because you can predicate something with the same term, doesn't mean they are not very different.


I was replying to a comment that said: "I’ve yet to see something called a “growth hack” that wasn’t unethical."

I wasn't equating anything.


Removing something perfectly legal, because public opinion is against them is cowardly.

Being a company that advertises DDoS mitigation and then drops a customer, because they get attacked a lot, is a cop out.

Being a company that will argue that they are not responsible for what their customers post legally, while by contrast dropping customers based on their content is pretty much censorship.

Don't think for a minute that dropping Daily Stormer wasn't just about public opinion and turning bad PR into good PR.


Cloudflare didn't drop Daily Stormer because of public opinion, but because of claims by Daily Stormer that Cloudflare supported Daily Stormer:

Our team has been thorough and have had thoughtful discussions for years about what the right policy was on censoring. Like a lot of people, we’ve felt angry at these hateful people for a long time but we have followed the law and remained content neutral as a network. We could not remain neutral after these claims of secret support by Cloudflare.[1]

Dropping them for that is 100% justified in my book.

[1] https://blog.cloudflare.com/why-we-terminated-daily-stormer/


Why couldn't have they made a public statement that they do not endorse the Daily Stormer, reasserted that Cloudflare's business is not political activism and warned them that future claims like this would lead to termination? After all, Cloudflare's CEO describes the act itself as "dangerous", as a one-time act that would never happen again(at least, until someone else does the same thing?), etc..

The CEO doesn't seem to agree with you on this being 100% justified:

> Let me be clear: this was an arbitrary decision. It was different than what I’d talked talked with our senior team about yesterday. I woke up this morning in a bad mood and decided to kick them off the Internet. … It was a decision I could make because I’m the CEO of a major Internet infrastructure company.

[1] https://gizmodo.com/cloudflare-ceo-on-terminating-service-to...

(I was unable to source the claims that the Daily Stormer made about Cloudflare supporting them. I seem to remember the Daily Stormer denying they made those claims. It seems pretty important to know the actual catalyst for a major breach in company policy, but it doesn't seem to be reported anywhere I looked).


> claims by Daily Stormer that Cloudflare supported Daily Stormer

claims by an anonymous person in their comments


fake excuse based on comment contents though from what i understand...


Unfortunately, we need to accommodate the future Darwin Award winners. Besides, there's dangerous, and then there's 'the government caused the death of someone who stepped on the highway'. Getting zapped, even mildly, would distract someone and decrease a person's chances of getting out of the way quickly.


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