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Don’t touch Xcode then, it welcomes you to paging hell.


With that fast SSD, do you notice paging in Xcode? Would it be worth the extra $300 or however much Apple asks for extra 8GB of ram in the US store?


yes, you notice paging, even with 'fast' SSD.

or perhaps it's not 'paging', and just dumb luck I hit and see beachballs on multiple new higher-end macbook pros regularly.


It's not normally paging, but thermal throttling which involves the machine appearing to 'spin' but it's actually just the kernel keeping the cycles to itself, which typically give you beachballs as a side-effect.

And one tip is to use the right hand side USBC ports for charging, not the left hand ones as for some reason or other they tend to cause the machine to heat up more...


the right hand ones are the only ones that can drive external monitors (on mine anyway). I feel like I'm the only one that has this - I had a MBP 2019 - first batch - and I thought I'd read that one side was different than the other re: power. Power works on both sides, but monitors won't run from the left usb-c ports. but it's not documented anywhere. :/

thx for tip.


I just tried plugging my monitor into a right hand socket on my 2019 MBP, and it worked fine for me.

On my machine it is true that charging on the right is better. Charging on the left spins up the fan.


Just a thought, but maybe everyone should be appalled at that extra $300. And the lack of upgradability on a Pro machine, especially.


You're talking to Apple customers. Being gouged is a way of life for them.


WWDC is typically software, not hardware related.


so I guess AMD compiled apps don't work? :P


Yeah, AMD64 applications don't yet work on this, only Intel ones. I think the stuff for a standard AMD64 machine isn't quite yet out of patent.


I don't see any mention of x86_64/AMD64 in the article. I would expect a version of Windows which can't run x86_64 apps to result in a lot of nasty compatibility surprises--it's been awhile since developers had to support 32-bit-only hardware--so I'd expect Microsoft to support it if at all possible.


You're right, the posted Anandtech article does not mention x86_64; however, other prior and recent coverage of this topic does confirm that x86_64 is not supported, such as this Ars Technica article [1] from the same day.

[1] https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/12/hp-asus-announce-fir...


There's no support for x86_64 binaries. Windows 10 is still available in 32-bit editions and almost all apps are still available for 32-bit, so I don't think this is a big issue.

I assume any kernel drivers will need to be compiled for ARM64 though. This might not help corporate adoption--VPN client, 3rd party anti-virus/full disk encryption, etc.

Also one thing that is x86-64 only is WSL, the Windows Subsystem for Linux.


I think most Windows applications which are truly 64-bit only are either too large to run on a machine like this, or likely to be rebuilt for AArch64. For the time being, I think IA-32 support is enough to tide them over, and it has the benefit of being thoroughly out of patent (except some fairly common extensions, like SSE2, which will expire soon).


There's still a lot of Windows devices that run x86 Windows, and new devices still ship with it, mostly low-memory or low-disk-space devices. Thus apps need to support it.


On the other hand, this is mostly for legacy desktop apps, not server apps or the like.


Somewhat amusingly, it provides one of the best reasons to continue to provide an x86 version of apps, rather than going 64-bit only.


The Intel patents for up to SSE2 should expire soon, and hopefully the AMD64 patents should be licenseable from AMD (if they are interested in that). I would not be surprised if this already emulates up to SSE2, given the likely release date and the fact that recent versions of MSVC already enable /arch:SSE2 by default.


> I would not be surprised if this already emulates up to SSE2, given the likely release date.

Yeah, even if they could be sued, they could settle for a couple years damages max, or quite possibly win, since they're doing DBT (no different from QEMU or loads of other x86 + SSE2 emulators).


though it's worth remembering that QEMU developers do not have the deep pockets that MS has -- and it is the depth of the pockets, rather than the (alleged) violation that drives law suits and threats.


What? Nvidia = Geen, AMD = Green :S


Typical, next year for Canada.... Sill waiting for the TV app.


And News. Surely they could do the News app for Canada.


You mean the company, UFC isn't a sport, MMA is.


Yes - you are correct. Just highlighting that it's not a game purchase.


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