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You mean like standard desktop application we had until the browser took over?


There are significant differences between standard desktop applications, Electron applications, progressive web applications, isomorphic/universal applications and so on. Usually the business case decides. If you want people to make more standard desktop applications, you should figure out a way to make it work for the common Electron app business case. Or stop throwing baseless shit in their general direction just because they've chosen a technology that does not meet your purity requirements. I'm very sure everyone in the community agrees Electron is not ideal.


> There are significant differences between standard desktop applications, Electron applications

That is certainly true.

But I was answering to

> The same as from using Electron, but a step further: less overhead from unneeded browser features, ability to lock the user into a kiosk/fullscreen mode, while most of the code is still reusable.

namely _Desktop applications_

Wasmer claim is

> Use the tools you know and the languages you love. Compile everything to WebAssembly. Run it on any OS or embed it into other languages.

There's no browser involved here, just compile once, run everywhere

I have the feeling I already heard it...


> [..], just compile once, run everywhere

>I have the feeling I already heard it...

If you are referring to java then something to note is

> Use the tools you know and the languages you love.

> Compile everything to WebAssembly.

> [..] embed it into other languages.

Which to my understanding apply only marginally to java; especially the embedding part.


> the common Electron app business case

Serious question: what is the common electron app business case?

Being able to run as a desktop app as well as in a browser?


From my POI: Yes, and reuse developers and code you already have for the web version.


Ok, thanks, that makes sense.

The reuse developers part I suppose could be achieved with QtQuick since QML is javascript based, but beyond the language, not that much else translates and you can’t completely get away from C++ for anything non-trivial, so it’s not really an electron competitor.


>Serious question: what is the common electron app business case?

Easy portability (not perfect) between all major platform


Electron is the least worst technology we have for building expressive 2D GUIs. Carlo and others are just an incremental improvement.

Every other GUI libraries are order of magnitude inferiors except if you just want to look like windows default utilities.


Imagine if apps would blend in with the host OS! The horror!


Sorry but the founder wants his specific UI, I can't do anything about it, my job is to do it.


Sorry to bother again, I cannot edit my post anymore, the author you're quoting in your profile is named François de La Rochefoucauld.

You wrote Rouchefoucald, which is wrong.


Thank you.


> Responsibility and punishment are good

If you're a dog, yes.

If you are a human of the year 2020 of the Gregorian calendar living in a developed country, there are better options.


the answer to your questions is in the title "Nothing Changes Until You Do"


> otherwise it tends to rely on the 'who'

in this case the `who` is Marcus Aurelius, the philosopher King, and his name is well known after 2 thousands years because he was who he was (probably the best king Rome has ever had).

There's an equestrian statue of Marcus Aurelius on the Capitoline Hill in Rome and it's been there since 175 A.C. it must mean something.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Aurelius#/media/File:St...

(actually it's not on public display anymore, it's been moved in the Capitoline Museums to preserve it, but it's still on the Capitoline Hill)

Sometimes the quote has value attached because of the 'who'.

For example: if a man that died on 17 March 180 had knowledge of our mind that predates studies on it, it means that 2 thousands year ago there were exceptionally intelligent people and 2 thousands year later they still are above average.

If Marcus Aurelius already knew it it must be something humans struggle to understand or that humans are wired to blame the outside.

BTW Marcus Aurelius was a he, I'm sure he want get upset if you call him 'he'.


The only guarantee OSS gives is

- full access to the source code

- full rights to modify it and use it as it was your own

There's no other guarantee.

So if someone writes some code that becomes highly popular, they have no obligation whatsoever to maintain it the way people want.

They don't even have to maintain it at all, if they don't want to!

It's out in the public, it's free, that's the end of the agreement on the creato's side.

If a writer gave away their writings for free, could people pretend that they write what people want them to write, the way they want?

Is it fair to judge the writer because the answer was "WONTFIX"?

But the reality is worse than that.

A lot of companies are literally making billions using OSS, but they are not paying for it, a lot of programmers are making a lot of money by assembling OSS for their clients, but they are not paying for it, hell most of them are not even contributing in _any_ way, what does entitle them to pretend the attention of the OSS maintainer or that the maintainer should act in a way or another, according to the "community" desires?


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