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The story about how they made this happen in such a short period is impressive to say the least. Elon’s strength seems to be making things happen.

Getting the largest computer cluster in the world up and running in a matter of months? Unbelievable.


Elon's strength is a massive wallet.


I guess you didn't watch the videon in OP, because if you had, you'd know that they tried to buy the buildout and got quotes for 12-18 months, then decided to do it themselves instead.


That's the power of having a massive wallet. If you have unlimited money then buying the experts you need to just do it yourself is an option you have that others don't.


My point is that that is exactly what they DIDN'T do. They tried to buy the experts, but the experts would not have been fast enough. So they did it themselves.

Setting up a datacenter like that in such a short time is NOT a thing you can buy with money.


When I say buy the experts I don't mean contract out to experts. I mean hire them and buy all the equipment yourselves.


The way the story was told, at least, they did NOT hire the experts.


You have other people in this thread talking about how xAI offers massive salaries to top talent so it sounds like they do exactly that. Have the money to both hire experts and buy the equipment. I don't even know why this is a discussion, by virtue of doing what they did they needed to hire experts and buy equipment.


They didn't hire the top talent in datacenter-building, because they had the expectation that they could buy a data center buildout. Sure, they hired top talent from other fields, to work other tasks, but that's unrelated to this.

Anyway, I don't have inside information on this, I'm just reciting what they announced publicly. If you want to argue that they in fact lied in the public announcement, and they secretly hired a bunch of datacenter-building-experts, then it's on you to show some proof for that claim.


It would just be a side project for his massive brain.


I’m not sure if that’s the case. He’s obviously a smart man, but what’s truly unbelievable is that someone has so much resources that they can make something like this happen (what looks like) pretty casually.


He knows how to take money from people and then market things as if they’re his creations which then turns into him having more money because people think it’s a good investment to give him more money. It’s really quite a genius con he has going. It seems as if the sky is the limit too.

Remember when he got caught having people play games for him so he had a top ranking ? He does that with basically everything.


You’re a very poor user of LLMs if they’re not a net time saver for you.


So the No True Scotsman fallacy of LLM productivity?


Most people do see productivity gains from using LLMs correctly. Myself included. Just because some people don’t learn how to use them correctly doesn’t mean LLMs aren’t helpful. It’s like when internet search came out and a handful of laggards tried it once, failed to get the exact perfect result, and declared “internet search is useless”. Using a tool wrong is not evidence of the tool being useless, it’s evidence that you need to learn how to use the tool.


hallucinations are literally the finger in the dam. if these models could sense when an output is well-founded and simply say “i dont know” otherwise… say goodbye to your job


Googling a question and finding an incorrect answer every now and then doesn’t mean that googling is useless. It means that you need to learn how to use google. Trust but verify. Use it for scenarios where you aren’t looking for it to be the trusted fact checker. It excels at brainstorming, not at fact giving.


I agree with your last sentence strongly, but a lot of the benchmarks are based on factual accuracy


> say goodbye to your job

How many times do you think I've heard that over the past three decades? And you know what? They've been right every time, except for this one little fact:

The machine cannot make you give a shit about the problem space.


It's a real issue! But only for people who built the habit of typing in address bar, clicking the first stack overflow link and copy paste the first answer. Maybe break that habit first?


It depends on what you're using it for, but you may well be holding it wrong.


Probably closer to "You're Holding It Wrong"


Democrats and their surveys.


> Democrats and their surveys.

I am responding to a specific comment about public support. Besides surveys, what method would you suggest for accurately determining public support for particular policies? And leave your self-satisfied partisan snark out of it.


I couldn’t care less about measuring the popularity of the President a couple weeks into the term. You could ask a fortune-telling chicken for all I care.

I’m ecstatic about everything that’s being done to make the country better right now. We’re again moving in the right direction. That’s what matters to me.


> I couldn’t care less about measuring the popularity of the President a couple weeks into the term. You could ask a fortune-telling chicken for all I care.

Then why are you responding to my objection to a post asserting the alleged popularity of current actions? Are you just interesting in spreading snark and bitterness without any thought or substance?

> I’m ecstatic about everything that’s being done to make the country better right now. We’re again moving in the right direction. That’s what matters to me.

Oh, sorry, I didn't realize that you're dumb. What's happening right now is vandalism of the government.


Why is that? I would bet large sums of money that these guys will have a bright future ahead of them, much of it because of the goodwill they get from working for DOGE.


It all depends on how persistent the new american system is.

During the WW2 german occupation of France, there were some french people who opted to enthusiastically work to support the german side, and they certainly benefitted short term from the goodwill earned

At the end of the occupation, a lot of them were shot or hanged by the resistance


That is a fantastically chreky comment.

10/10 no notes


You say goodwill, we say “consulting” with companies that have directly benefited from their decisions and will benefit from their connections. Going from high positions in government into the post-government life of consulting and leadership positions is neither new nor indicative of the value of their work.


And I reiterated that being good with computers is not a good predictor for how things work in highly-politicized government positions


>I would bet large sums of money that these guys will have a bright future ahead of them, much of it because of the goodwill they get from working for DOGE.

Email me.


Goodwill from whom exactly?

When the shit inevitably hits the fan from the massive amount of orgs they are dismantling, Musk and the DOGE will be used as a political scapegoat by Trump, that's how politics work.

And then from that, taking responsibility has never been Musk strongest point either, he'll push back the blame further to DOGE workers.


haha, the goodwill of ending up on a different black list, and never working again


Forgot the /s


And you think this is news to any of us?


In both of your transcripts it fails at solving it, am I failing to see something? Here’s my thought process:

1. The only option for who to take first is the goat.

2. We come back and get the cabbage.

3. We drop off the cabbage and take the goat back

4. We leave the goat and take the wolf to the cabbage

5. We go get the goat and we have all of them

Neither of the transcripts do that. In the first one the goat immediately eats the cabbage. In the second one the wolf eats the goat after you leave them.


If you take the goat first, the wolf will eat the cabbage. Reread the description - It's a twist on the old problem, to make it harder for bots to solve.


You're thinking of the classic riddle but in this version goats hunt wolves who are on a cabbage diet.


Humans always hallucinate like this, seeing the original problem instead of the twist.


...

do you realize you're an LLM?


I competed in bodybuilding throughout my early twenties, but never felt athletic. Nowadays I do calisthenics and cardio (rowing, running, cycling) and frankly look a lot more athletic as well.

I think crossfit and decathlon pros are the peak of athleticism.


My wife is an Olympian in a track event and we have also discussed this at length. CrossFit’s trademark of “the fittest on earth” for the champion of their international competition (… the name escapes me…) always elicits an eye rolls from her. If you asked her, she would say Decathletes are the crème de la crème.


Serious question; what's a decathlon pro?


Someone who does decathlon professionally? They certainly look closer to the ideal aesthetic than most track and field athletes.


It's like a regular Decathlon but with a bigger screen.


Someone who competes in decathlon for a living, I suppose.


Getting to the truth is a valid motivator for a bit over half of the country.


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