"Listen, I'm no doctor, but your shit stinks in a way that makes me think you need to see one," said while you're in the stall next to him, or any other time, couldn't hurt.

Well said lol

If you'd kept reading the sentence, you wouldn't be asking the questions you're asking.

> A product can be both, according to the current US administration

The person you're responding to isn't trying to convince you that a tent is two things, they're telling you that the US government wants you to believe a tent is two things.

I am a good hacker, and I find this interesting. This is on topic and should not be flagged. When an influential tech leader says "Silicon Valley can’t be neutral any longer", I want to hear what they have to say. I want to hear what the HN community has to say about it.

But the HN community has voiced their opinion on numerous occasions. It's just that a lot of those voices unfortunately lack human empathy, compassion, and decency.

Yeah they can pitch their startups to the technofeudalist fascist overlords to buy themselves a boat and retire with a lot of money, and really now, isn’t that the point?

>hear what the HN community has to say about it.

This.

This is what you are not supposed to be able to get anywhere else.

It does seem like that could be a pretty good measure of desirabilty.

Not only whether or not the article in particular, or its subject may be so popular that it's all over the mainstream news. Depends on what it is. When the commentary is not what you get from the mainstream that's one thing you want, but when it starts out or degenerates into something thoughtless or no different you don't need a whole lot of that.

I still see no reason for me to flag anything or downvote anybody, there's plenty of that without me adding to the downside.

And yet, it’s flagged. I wish I was surprised.

> people with real knowledge on the subject

...tend to be qualified to write a lot of books on the subject.

I don't think you're being fair. You're turning "I don't like the framing" into "a culture war".

You might be right. I read the lyrical flourish of the multiple questions (What about hands? What about etc.?) and the "for boys" quip as unnecessarily aggressive and dismissive, but maybe that wasn't the intention.

> Every time I read about them arresting somebody...

You're clearly not reading enough and are a part of the problem if you believe what you're saying to be true.

I'm not 100% sure what to believe, but I have been around long enough to take everything I read with a grain of salt.

Gonna need more than a grain these days.

Indiscriminate can be defined as "done at random or without careful judgment" - I think the latter part of that definition perfectly describes ELITE.

I find it nonsensical to dismiss an anti-ICE argument because of one word.

> No

Given that, I'd suggest not offering "alternatives" to the features described in TFA for a service you've never used. There are people here talking about oranges, a lot of them with domain expertise, and you're not just talking about apples, you're talking about bird migrations.

Get this: I've used what you guys built back then almost every day for the past 20 years. (also, long time no see - we should catch up).

Most macOS keyboard commands that let you cycle between things (like windows or applications) can be "reversed" by adding the SHIFT key.

So CMD+TAB+SHIFT cycles in the opposite order of from CMD+TAB, etc.