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The burden of proof lies on those who say it exists, not the other way around.


The burden of proof lies on whoever wants to convince someone else of something. in this case the guy that wants to convince people it likely is not real.


The original poster stated

> "The human brain is mutable, the human "soul" is a concept thats not proven yet and likely isn't real."

The soul is "a concept that's not proven yet." It's unproven because there's no convincing evidence for the proposition. By definition, in the absence of convincing evidence, the null hypothesis of any proposition is presumed to be more likely. The presumed likelihood of the null hypothesis is not a positive assertion which creates a burden of proof. It's the presumed default state of all possible propositions - even those yet to be imagined.

In other words, pointing out 'absence of evidence' is not asserting 'evidence of absence'. See: Russell's Teapot and Sagan's Dragon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%27s_teapot)


It is not the case that x is proven due to having y evidence pointing in its direction. That's not how any of this works.

Do you exist?


I for one would find it far more acceptable if the people carrying out the deportations would be a little less "shoot U.S. civilians in the face for not listening" about it.


“Not listening” is really an incredible framing for trying to flee being detained for obstruction, and in the process hitting and nearly running over a federal agent in your SUV.


I forget that the punishment for obstruction is on-the-spot public execution by a trained officer.


Where did I say that? It’s ultimately up to a jury to decide whether lethal force was justified. Obstruct and provoke law enforcement at your own peril.


It’s ultimately up to a jury to decide whether she was trying to flee being detained for obstruction and was in the process hitting and nearly running over a federal agent in her SUV.

Not that it will do her any good.


Agreed. I'm continually shocked at the level of gaslighting still occurring around this event when we have clear footage from multiple angles.


Disagreement =/= gaslighting


The person you are referring to rammed an ICE agent with their vehicle and the agent suffered internal bleeding as a result.

Sorry but there is no scenario where you can strike law enforcement with your car after being repeatedly ordered to exit your vehicle where their wouldn't be a justifiable use of lethal force. Trying to frame it as "shoot U.S. civilians in the face for not listening" is extremely disingenuous.


The "interal bleeding" thing is so unbelievably ludicrous. He got a bruise because he was lurching for the car while juggling his phone in one hand and a gun in the other. She was clearly neither trying to, nor succeeding in "ramming" him.


So the “ICE agent” presented identification to her showing he was law enforcement? Nope. Oh so he got out of a vehicle marked as ICE? Nope.

Do you want to live in a country where an unidentified masked individual with a gun can say “im a fed”, stop a car and force someone out without proper ID? That’s what you’re in support of. I’d say one would have a right to self defense.

Also internal bleeding was literally just a bruise, like the internal bleeding I get from walking into the corner of my coffee table.


This is such a bizarre argument because the entire reason the two women were there in the first place is because they thought they were following ICE agents. Both women were part of "ICE Watch", an anti-ICE activist group. They had been following the agents around throughout the day, attempting to disrupt them, which is why the car was parked perpendicular in the street (to block the ICE vehicles) prior to the incident.

So to claim the women didn't know it was Federal law enforcement ordering them to exit the vehicle is baffling to me because that was the entire reason the women were there in the first place.


> Both women were part of "ICE Watch", an anti-ICE activist group

Based.

> which is why the car was parked perpendicular in the street (to block the ICE vehicles) prior to the incident.

That giant ass street that could fit three of her car across its entire width? The one where she was signaling them to go around her? It doesn't sound like she was very effective at disrupting ICE.

But even if she was the most effective giant-road-blocking ICE inconveniencer Minneapolis has ever seen, she still should not have been murdered by ICE. It's morally indefensible, there's no world wherein she deserved to be shot unless she had a gun and was shooting first.


While I agree she knew who they were and disagree with the other person’s implication that she could have not known, in the US we are entirely within our rights to monitor law enforcement, despite attempts to end it (see what recently happened in Louisiana with bans on filming police within 25ft). So what you see as a provocation or “looking for trouble,” I see as exercising her rights and doing her civic duty. I imagine your opinion would change if you agreed with what she was doing a la “ one man’s terrorist is another’s freedom fighter.”

The sad reality is these people need to be monitored. If they think nobody is watching then they will behave worse than they already are. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_Cave


Regardless of the exact circumstances of that scenario, there has been no efforts towards even the most token forms of accountability, and your echoing of state propaganda only furthers their success. You are on the wrong side of history with this one. An armed state police force that exists above accountability (except to the executive) is by definition a Geheimestaatspolizei.


> Trying to frame it as "shoot U.S. civilians in the face for not listening" is extremely disingenuous.

Describing what she did as "ramming" an ICE agent is extremely disingenuous. She tapped him, probably on accident[†]. He got a bruise, and she got shot in the face.

[†] We'll never know because she's dead.


Sounds like the best way to sell an OK product.


We are not. These are embryo-like structures. Not actual human embryos.


they have no mouth even if they want to scream.


I'm an organ donor, and I have no problem giving my organs away after I'm quite positive I won't feel it. I think as long as there is no sensation, there is no pain, and certainly no formal concept of "self". But still, with matters of exploitation of our bodies, we should tread very very lightly.


that's an odd thing to bring up out of nowhere.


"Call them out, hell, call their employer" -JD Vance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngofqx9EfcM&t=7398s

https://x.com/SecRubio/status/1967784061721776521 revoking visas


For the record, your website starts out "Our website has no flashy buttons, fancy graphics, eye-catching JavaScript animations, or stock photos with grinning people, and that is by design" and then your website goes on to have every single one of those things.


We detached this comment from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42303251. Please see the rules at the top of the thread.


> I could have surely done it for the good of mother earth but financially it made no sense.

This seems like a recurring theme in todays world.


Thank you for this. Its lovely to be reminded that a lot of us share some the same ups and downs whatever we're doing.


Interesting project, but the custom scroll behavior on the site is obnoxious. It makes navigating the site more difficult than it should be. Might be something to reconsider.


This person is not affiliated with Meta.


Looks like they work at Meta, but this is a scammy blind-referral submission scheme for them to refer random people to collect the $5k employee referral bonus. This is definitely discouraged.


Thanks for catching this. This is definitely not ok.


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