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Textbook models typically simulate normal development of an embryo, e.g. A-P and D-V (anterior-posterior and dorsal-ventral) patterning. The question Levin raises is how a perturbed embryo manages to develop normally, both "picasso tadpoles" where a scrambled face will re-organize into a normal face, and tadpoles with eyes transplanted to their tails, where an optic nerve forms across from the tail to the brain and a functional eye develops.

I haven't thoroughly read all of Levin's papers, so I'm not sure to what extent they specifically address the issue of whether textbook models of morphogen gradients can or cannot account for these experiments. I'd guess that it is difficult to say conclusively. You might have to use one of the software packages for simulating multi-cellular development, regulatory logic, and morphogen gradients/diffusion, if you wanted to argue either "the textbook model can generate this behavior" or that the textbook model cannot.

The simulations/models that I'm familiar with are quite basic, relative to actual biology, e.g. models of drosophila eve stripes are based on a few dozen genes or less. But iiuc, our understanding of larval development and patterning of C Elegans is far behind that of drosophila (the fly embryo starts as a syncytium, unlike worms and vertebrates, which makes fly segmentation easier to follow). I haven't read about Xenopus (the frogs that Levin studies), but I'd guess that we are very far from being able to simulate all the way from embryo to facial development in the normal case, let alone the abnormal picasso and "eye on tail" tadpoles.


I'm not an expert on the actual biological mechanisms, but, it makes intuitive sense to me that both of those effects would occur in the situation you described from simple cells working on gradients: I was one of the authors on this paper during my undergrad[1] and the generalized idea of an eye being placed on a tail and having nerves routed successfully through the body via pheromone gradient is exactly the kind of error I watched occur a dozen times while collecting the population error statistics for this paper. Same thing with the kind of error of a face re-arranging itself. The "ants" in this paper have no communication except chemical gradients similar to the ones talked about with morphogen gradients. I'm not claiming it's a proof of it working that way, ofc, but, even simpler versions of the same mechanism can result in the same kind of behavior and error.

[1]: https://direct.mit.edu/isal/proceedings/alif2016/28/100/9940...


very interesting, thanks for sharing.


"Some people become depressed at the scale of the universe, because it makes them feel insignificant. Other people are relieved to feel insignificant, which is even worse. But, in any case, those are mistakes. Feeling insignificant because the universe is large has exactly the same logic as feeling inadequate for not being a cow. Or a herd of cows. The universe is not there to overwhelm us; it is our home, and our resource. The bigger the better." -- David Deutsch


I wouldn't attack people's emotions like that, the approach of 'my opinion is better than yours and your emotions are wrong' ain't the best.

Its just one of those concepts or facts of life like our (im)mortality that each of us has to handle on their own terms since each of us is wired in pretty unique ways. Its perfectly fine to be in awe or even stunned by it, it means one actually started to grasp vastness of that topic and the fact we don't have it all figured out and during our lifetime this won't change.

Every time I look at starry night sky and realize those distances, thermonuclear furnaces glowing across vast distances in absolute cold (or their massive groups looking similarly yet being vastly further), I am in awe. It puts my efforts and happiness in my life in a good perspective, in similar fashion spending my time with my kids does. And I look at stars every night I can, its a beautiful calming sight for me.


Emotions are like waves; we can’t choose which ones appear, but we can choose which one to surf. The person you’re replying to (well, really, the person they quoted) didn’t really seem to be “attacking” anyone’s emotions to me. It seemed pretty gently advising the reader not to spend all their time riding the emotional waves that lead to depression or nihilism.

I do believe we all must face these emotions to become aware. But the depression/nihilism trap is very real for many people (myself included), and learning to walk that line and stay curious is part of our emotional/psychological development.


Maybe you saw this paper about that idea - The Genomic Code: The genome instantiates a generative model of the organism.

"Here, we propose a new analogy, inspired by recent work in machine learning and neuroscience: that the genome encodes a generative model of the organism. In this scheme, by analogy with variational autoencoders, the genome does not encode either organismal form or developmental processes directly, but comprises a compressed space of latent variables."

1. https://arxiv.org/abs/2407.15908 2. discussion with the authors https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QaMnUBkmz4


Those papers say the virus is natural and wasn't engineered by humans. The OP link is about the theory that origin event is a natural virus escaping from a lab. A wild-type virus specimen obtained from bats in the wild that was being studied in the lab (not engineered or modified in the lab).


related: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21107706 - Number theorist fears many proofs widely considered to be true are wrong (vice.com)


Many futures exchanges are open 24 hours on weekdays (perhaps with 15 minute gaps), but not weekends. Can you link to one that's open on the weekends?


Practically any retail/spot forex exchange I thought?


I haven't seen an FX exchange that trades through weekends, since Oanda stopped offering weekend trading back in 2012.[1] Can you link to one?

1. https://www.leaprate.com/news/oanda-suspends-weekend-trading...


Its about who applies AI and for what purpose. Currently, FANG controls all the data and applies AI to maximize ad clicks (the evil paperclip maximizer). "blockchain" is a movement for people who want "take back" their data (re-decentralize the web). They still want the benefits of machine learning on big personalized data sets (but without the annoying intrusions of profit-maximizing EvilCorp).


This is exciting for the Ewasm team (Ethereum WebAssembly). We're hoping this new single-pass compilation in Liftoff won't be vulnerable to JIT bombs, which are wasm modules that take a lot longer to compile than they do to execute. JIT bombs would be DoS attack vectors on Ethereum clients using JIT wasm engines, and we found some v8 JIT bombs through fuzz testing some months ago.

I gave a talk about it back in June. Slides: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1n75Mo09HmyruV5S7q0cH... video: https://youtu.be/2eISBAbT3GM?t=1h22m3s


Aa EOS is already leveraging WASM, do you know if they implement any hardening against these? I know they use wall clock measurements for some operations.


I mention in the talk that our fuzz tester, Guido Vranken, moved on to fuzzing WAVM (the wasm jit engine used in EOS) after v8. He earned some bounties (only some of them were related to WAVM) and several articles were written about it. I believe WAVM has some constants that can be set low enough to prevent JIT bombs, but I didn't follow the details so I'm not sure. Check out this commit, in particular the changes to WASMSerialization.cpp: https://github.com/EOSIO/eos/commit/af02ebba5d5797b6dcc2f06b...


Any update on those new super-accurate GPS chips? [1]

1. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15308771 Super-Accurate GPS Chips Coming to Smartphones in 2018 (ieee.org)


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