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The brand new rp2350 from Raspberry Pi is also made on 40nm. Microcontrollers are often on 40nm or 32nm processes, but those processes didn’t stop being updated twenty years ago.

This has not been my experience with Motorola, unless you’re talking about OS major versions. With my last couple of phones I got several point versions and security patches for 3 or so years. It’s not my experience so far with my OnePlus phone either. Certainly I’ve seen phones that never updated from launch day, too, but I don’t think only Google and Samsung do updates.

The original author can change their own notice. Why would that be a problem?

Well they could technically have proper attribution without the literal string "Copyright (c) 2024 The Spegel Authors" if they included an older copyright notice that was more appropriate. I think that was the point they were making.

This is correct and is roughly what I meant. My only nitpick is that I was thinking that if they forked at the time of the older notice, they would be fine to have used it, rather than a vague notion of appropriateness that probably was intended to mean the same thing, but is less precise.

The hacker news post reached someone high enough up at Microsoft to have things changed. They ended placing a combined copyright notice that is a mixture of both versions into the repository to play it safe.


They still ship bash. It’s just not the default shell anymore.

They ship the last GPLv2-licensed version of bash — bash 3.2 was released in 2006, with minor bug fix patches released up until 2014.

It does make them legally liable for doing so.

[citation needed]

Any court cases supporting this form of liability?



Generally a court likes for a plaintiff to try to resolve a dispute before suing. The author should contact the Peerd team at Microsoft and point out that they seem to have overlooked their obligations under the license. Only if they refuse to do anything would it be worth considering a lawsuit.

Plenty of people use Midnight Commander or Total Commander both of which hearken back to Norton Commander for DOS (back before Norton sold to Symantec).


I know quite a few people who use old form design software, old contact managers, old email clients, old text editors, old spreadsheet packages, old CAD software, and yes even old word processors because they prefer the interface. Of course “old” is subjective. There are WordStar, MS Word, MS Works, and WordPerfect for DOS. There are early Windows versions of Word and WordPerfect. There’s 1-2-3, Excel, and others for decades or one could go all the way back to VisiCalc. I know people who still use Mutt or Pine for email.


> “i386” (the first Intel microarchitecture that implemented protected mode)12

This is technically incorrect. The 286 had protected mode. It was a 16-bit protected mode, being a 16-bit processor. It was also incompatible with the later protected mode of the 386 through today’s processors. It did, however, exist.


It’s no Supra, but the FRS is a sporty little car that was marketed in a fairly affordable range. It’s also basically a BRZ. It’s a little sad that’s no longer an option.

The WRX has a turbocharged Boxer engine, manual gearbox or optional CVT, and all-wheel drive. It’s a sedan, but it does a 13.9 second quarter mile stock off the showroom floor. That’s not bad.


> It’s no Supra, but the FRS is a sporty little car that was marketed in a fairly affordable range. It’s also basically a BRZ. It’s a little sad that’s no longer an option.

The FRS/BRZ/GR86 are identical cars mechanically, Toyota owns Scion, so the FRS was replaced by the GT86 and later GR86 within the Toyota line-up when Toyota killed off the Scion brand in the US, and the FRS never existed outside the North American market, because Scion was a North American exclusive brand.

The BRZ/GR86 has a Subaru Boxer engine, with Toyota D4S Port+Direct Injection, using a Toyota ECU/ECM, Toyota/Aisin transmission, Toyota TCU/TCM, and Toyota infotainment (in some generations), but with a mostly Subaru designed chassis and nearly entirely Subaru suspension and post-transmission driveline, but the wheels and tires off a Prius (in the first generation), and a handful of things that were only created to be jointly used by the BRZ/GR86. Except no matter which part you pick on the car, it'll be marked "Subaru", including ironically the Toyota badge on the front of the GT86.

It's better to think of them as what they are, which is different branding for the same vehicle, that was jointly developed and manufactured.


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