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if something requires an EULA it isn’t open at all, it is just publicly available. By your logic, public services are “open source.” There are myriad corporations that release actual open source software that is truly free to use. If you experience massive success with anything regarding Meta’s LLMs, they’re going to take a cut according to their EULA.


You’re certainly entitled to the opinion that an agreement (as in EULA) is distinct from a license (as in GPL, MIT etc).

But many legal minds close to this issue have moved to the position that there is no meaningful distinction, at least when it comes to licenses like GPL.

For example: https://writing.kemitchell.com/2023/10/13/Wrong-About-GPLs


I'm trying to figure out the logic that makes "free for commercial use with less than 700 million monthly active users" less open than "free for non-commercial use", which is the traditional norm for non-copyleft open source machine learning products. But I just can't get there. Could somebody spell it out for me?


Ideals vs. Gut Instinct


If you’ve ever had the pleasure of using the DJ X feature in Spotify, it does a decent job mixing in some new things I like, but you’re definitely on to something when it comes to popular record labels. I don’t like any of the new pop, but every other “set” that DJ X provides has Chappel Roan or Taylor Swift or Sabrina Carpenter or some other flavor of generic pop I never am interested in. Play counts for some of these popular artists are probably inflated due to that kind of thing.


I’m curious, is the prevalence of SQLite similar to how PHP is widely used because it’s behind many WordPress sites?


Couple of major companies like Adobe, Apple, Google, Mozilla use it in their products. That would add up quick.

https://www.sqlite.org/famous.html


Chrome's use of SQLite for history, cookies, and local storage would probably put it in first place on its own. Its extensive use in iOS and Android just guarantees the "win".


I'm trying to understand this sentence: it seems to suggest that PHP is only popular because of Wordpress, which just... makes no sense? Wordpress uses PHP because PHP existed, and was good enough to build Wordpress on. And it's certainly not just clinging onto life, hanging around just because Wordpress is built on top of it, today?

So it's hard to understand which similarity you're asking about, but SQLite is popular because it does one thing, and does that one thing really well, and that thing also happens to be a perfect fit for complex file formats.


I think Sqlite's accessibility and ease of use definitely help. However, the fact you can distribute an entire db with a single file is something that shouldn't be overlooked, nor sqlite's legendary reliability and insane test coverage. Finally the fact you can embed it in memory makes for an amazing testing story.


Kind of, at least in regards to mobile.

When developing iOS and Android apps, the "default" frameworks for storing data (Core Data for iOS, Room for Android) are wrappers around sqlite.

I would guess >50% of apps installed on your phone uses sqlite.


It's also the default database used when creating new projects using many web frameworks, like Rails or (IIRC) Django.


this comment resonates with me. I think it’s a common mistake for a lot of folks to forget that programming is a creative task, and creative tasks rarely fit into metrics effectively. I have a bad habit at my place of work for not ticketing things out correctly and pushing larger than average commits.


At one point I just realized that the work in BigCo has very little to do with actual value, and much more politics and PR. In my last workplace we had two teams working on almost identical applications - large, multistage web forms for insurance. At that time it was a common practice at the office to estimate in units of time. One team was constantly commiting sprints to 300 units and delivering 200, and the other was commiting to 100 and delivering 150. First was quickly disbanded and fired, and the latter was praised for performing beyond expecations.


yeah, petting zoos are excellent ways to teach children about animals and animal husbandry. it is very unlucky this has happened, for sure.


whose children? yours? husbandry of wild animals? huh? what's unlucky for whom? i dunno, man...

might i suggest anything narrated by Sir David Attenborough.


> anything narrated by Sir David Attenborough

I've come to like Prehistoric Planet[0]. The CGI is so good, you can practically smell the beasties.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prehistoric_Planet


let’s not be intentionally naive here; petting zoos sometimes have exotic animals (like zebras) but mostly contain animals like donkeys, sheep, toy ponies, etc. There are many places to take a stance on animal care and rights, as well as things to criticize involving this incident, but petting zoos are a weird hill to die on regarding this matter. You should consider bringing your children to one soon if you have any, they’re a little smelly (mainly because they’re usually adjacent/close to a farm), but pretty fun, especially if the people running it are educated.


For the record, zebras are some of last animals you'd expect to see in a petting zoo. They are actively unfriendly. The San Diego Zoo lets you interact with rhinos and cheetahs more than zebras.


I wish this could work out as well as it seems it could, but it’s not nearly as easy or flowery as a residential developer picking up an office building. A friend of mine in the space pointed out even though these spaces have a lot of floor space, plumbing is your main issue on converting these structures into livable spaces. Most of these spaces only have 1-2 bathrooms a floor, meaning an apartment-style floor plan adjustment turns into a nightmare regarding piping.


I think there’s some hope in the console market via the likes of things like the Steamdeck and other handheld PC devices. Hopefully they’ll get cheaper as time goes on and compete at the same price point as the switch.


accurate, I work for a company that uses a bunch of Microsoft products. it’s apparently a good deal from a financial perspective and is popular in the public sector because of the easy integration for non-technical users. alas, you get what you pay for.


I have had the opposite experience with X, I find it hard to escape any cheap rage bait on my feed regardless of how I would tag or hide pages. It’s interesting you have this experience, though.


Looking beyond your sophomoric tone, I understand where you’re at, but I think these arguments on both sides are silly. OP makes a valid point in regard to the sentimentality behind creating art. You’re right in that no art “should” be a a particular thing or shape, but I am with OP that asking the question “what will happen to us culturally” is necessary every time a new tool arrives. The maximalist “all things are tools for artists” works in theory, but tools have changed cultures drastically, and that is very easy to point out throughout history.

I also find it comical that you thrust your opinion on what art is upon OP and say they are a “conformist hypocrite.” Both of you just hold an opinion on art and culture that differ, nothing more. To use your words, it’s personal and you have no say in how they should interact with or interpret art. When it comes to art, neither of your opinions, or Google’s, matters.


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