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Who would you prefer filling the ranks at a company like Palantir?

1. People who are sympathetic to these concerns, and more likely to change thinking from within or whistleblow if needed.

2. Everyone left over who are pro police state and fascism?

OP’s post would only fill Palantir with the second group. This seems more dangerous than to fill it with a diverse crowd.


It’s not as if Palantir is a co-op or something. If you work there you’re working on the things the bosses want.

They’re not going to turn around and say “gosh, you’re right, the tech we’re making is going to enable a police state, I never thought!”. They know. They’re fine with it.


Nobody. A company like Palantir doesn't need to exist and people don't need to work for it.


Does everyone in the country agree with this sentiment? I have a feeling people might still apply. :/


If 50% of engineers choose not to work for Palantir for ethical reasons, they have to hire from a reduced talent pool. The company will have to pay more for talented engineers but can probably still succeed. If 90%-99% of engineers refuse to work for them, they're going to have a much harder time of it.


I would assume maybe 1% have read this tweet and maybe 20% would refuse to with them


Palantir is the police state. They are not redeemable, as they are fulfilling their original mission. I urge people to see what the founders say on X, chilling.


But we need whistleblowers inside.


Palantir should simply not exist and the executives should be tried for war crimes.


Ok, you’re right. Shut it down.

Should be rid of it by tomorrow then?


You think these tactics work at a company like Palantir? Or even most companies? That’s not how these power structures work. These companies tend to already filter for people who align with the built in politics and ethics of the product being produced.


Has (1) ever worked?


Edward Snowden didn't work for the NSA, he worked for Booz Allen Hamilton


Is “worked” a pass/fail metric? Or just a way to improve a situation?


Has 1 ever in tech actually put a stop to harmful behavior?


I would encourage anyone to familiarize themselves with the "banality of evil" [1]. Interestingly, there's this quote that's very apropos today:

> “The ideal subject of totalitarian rule,” she also says, “is not the convinced Nazi or the convinced communist, but the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction no longer holds”

Anyway, the idea of this is "evil" is an accumulation of small, otherwise inocuous actions.

Consider the recent movie "Zone of Interest" that was set outside Auschwitz and never showed any of the atrocities. The whole point was that even on the steps of mass murder, life still appeared in many ways "normal" [2].

[1]: https://www.thebritishacademy.ac.uk/blog/hannah-arendts-less...

[2]: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/12/18/the-zone-of-in...


It’s like with the military.

A pacifist with a gun is likely to shoot.

So pacifists should join in great numbers.


If you’re under 18 and not already overweight and still growing, it probably is.

Pretty sure it’s well studied that kids perform better at school when they’ve had breakfast.


I stopped shopping at Home Depot because their profits are donated to super pacs I don’t agree with.


That’s literally what this whole article was about. Removing a high correlation performance test, that black candidates didn’t pass as frequently, and replacing it with a very low correlation questionnaire that provided a more diverse applicant pool while weeding out highly qualified individuals.


Exactly. From the article: "As originally scored, the test was intended to pass 60% of applicants, but predictions suggested only 3% of black applicants would pass"


They still had to pass the performance test. It was just no longer the first step in the process. I want to be clear, that doesn't mean the questionnaire was a good thing. It just means that the questionnaire did not lower the bar.

Instead it reduced the applicant pool in a sudden and unfair manner, which is it's own issue.


No, read the article again. They didn't need to pass the same test to the same degree - the criteria was also changed to have "qualified" and "well qualified".


It's worth nothing that this change happened before the questionnaire was instituted. (The paper referenced in the article was from 2006, I haven't dug enough to find a date for when this change was made, but the narrative in the article also establishes this act as happening in the '00s.) Additionally, from the Conclusions:

"Reweighting was based on data collected from incumbent ATCSs who took AT-SAT on a research basis; some of these employees achieved overall scores less than 70 (that was one of the reasons for the reweighting effort – a belief that incumbent employees should be able to pass the entry-level selection test)."

I don't think this proves that the update to the test was good or bad in overall competency, but I do think it's worth investigating if the test should be updated when existing employees are unable to pass.


Was it replaced, or was the questionnaire an addition?


I got a MK4 at launch and it worked out of the box with no issues, no bugs, and also was my first 3d printer. I found it perfectly easy to operate.

Prusa’s online documentation (and printed docs for that matter) are excellent.


I’m not familiar with Bambu, I’m a Prusa user, but if I had to guess you would always be able to print via microSD. It would be wildly unpopular to disable local printing.


A perfectly reasonable concern.


Same. My MBP and M1 Air are amazing machines. But I’m now also excited that any future M chip replacement will be faster and just as nice.

The battery performance is incredible too.


Check out Asahi linux


I think you just proved his point. This response is clearly quite aggressive and over the top and thus falls in the camp of being unlikely friends vs. someone who takes a more cordial approach.


I don't view someone giving me a test on first meeting as "cordial" either.


Cordial or not, I certainly wouldn’t want to be friends with someone sociopathically “testing” me like that. It’s literal anti-social behavior.


No one deserves to be friends with anyone, actually - it's something two people decide mutually.

To see it any other way reeks of entitlement.


Folks aren't reacting negatively because they want to be OP's friend, they're reacting negatively because OP makes a practice of lying to people about something inconsequential in order to try to provoke them as a form of test. That's not the way most normal people think about building personal relationships. We don't go around deliberately setting traps for others.



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