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You can indeed and should assume there is a heavy JIT component to it. At the same time, it is important to note that this is geared for already highly parallel code.

In other words, while the JIT can be applied to all code in principle, the nature of accelerated HW is that it makes sense where embarrassingly parallel workloads are around.

Having said that, NextSilicon != GPU, so different approach to acceleration of said parallel code.


Not really. I work for NextSilicon. It's a data-flow oriented design. We will eventually have more details available that gradually explain this.


Yeah, it's an unfortunate overlap. The Mill-Core in NextSilicon terminology is the software defined "configuration" of the chip so to speak that represents swaths of the application that are deemed worthy of acceleration as expressed on the custom HW.

So really the Mill-Core is in a way the expression of the customer's code. really.


I work in NS. The riscv was the "one more thing" aspect of the "reveal".

The main product/architecture discussed has nothing to do with vector processors or riscv.

It's a new, fundamentally different data-flow processor.

Hopefully we will improve in explaining what we do and why people may want to care.


So, a Systolic Array[1] spiced up with a pinch of control flow and a side of compiler cleverness? At least that's the impression I get from the servethehome article linked upthead. I wasn't able to find non-marketing better-than-sliced-bread technical details from 3 minutes of poking at your website.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systolic_array


I can see why systolic arrays come to mind, but this is different. While there are indeed many ALUs connected to each other in a systolic array and in a data-flow chip, data-flow is usually more flexible (at a cost of complexity) and the ALUs can be thought of as residing on some shared fabric.

Systolic arrays often (always?) have a predefined communication pattern and are often used in problems where data that passes through them is also retained in some shape or form.

For NextSilicon, the ALUs are reconfigured and rewired to express the application (or parts of) on the parallel data-flow acclerator.


Are the GreenArray chips also systolic arrays?


My understanding is no, if I understand what people mean by systolic arrays.

GreenArray processors are complete computers with their own memory and running their own software. The GA144 chip has 144 independently programmable computers with 64 words of memory each. You program each of them, including external I/O and routing between them, and then you run the chip as a cluster of computers.

[1] https://greenarraychips.com


Reminds me a bit of the Parallax Propeller chip.


TIL about the Parallax Propeller. Yes, it does seem very similar to the GreenArrays GA144, complete with an idiosyncratic language and IDE.

One distinction of the GreenArrays chip is that they claim it is very energy-efficient.


Text on the front page of the NS website* leads me to think you have a fancy compiler: "Intelligent software-defined hardware acceleration". Sounds like Cerebras to my non-expert ears.

* https://www.nextsilicon.com


No real overlap with Cerebras. Have tons of respect for what they do and achieve, but unrelated arch / approach / target-customers.


Then your org is over paying for mediocre HW, at least for servers, arguably also for laptops (Dev machines for sure) At least for the last two years.


I can count on one hand the number of devs we have. We're not a software tech company. vPro is a standard for device management here.


Thank you for writing the obvious. Instruction Byte count is the wrong metric here 100%. Instruction Count (given reasonable decoding/timing constraints) is the thing to optimize for and indeed variable length encoding is very bad.


Instruction byte count matters quite a lot when you're buying ROM in volume. And today, the main commercial battleground for RISCV is in the microcontroller space where people care about these things.


For those of us without the expertise, could you elaborate on why that is?

On the one hand we have byte count, with its obvious effect on cache space used. But to those of us who don't know, why is instruction count so important?

There's macro-op fusion, which admittedly would burn transistors that could be used for other things. Could you elaborate why it's not sufficient?

And then the fact that modern x86 does the opposite to macro-op fusion, by actually splitting up CISC instructions into micro-ops. Why is it so bad if they were more micro-ops to start with, if Intel chooses to do this?


OP from twitter here. I'll take the blame for the click-baity-ness, but I was really shocked and this was in real-time in my defense.

I'm assuming it will get resolved, as the errata suggests by shoving lots of 0x2c segment overrides to re-align those jumps.

The price won't be 0, but will definitely less than the very extreme 20% edge case I stumbled upon.

I'm more "worried" or annoyed by older binaries that will never get updated. But hey... (;⌣̀_⌣́)


For those not understanding the context of the parent's comment, this HN post originally linked to @damageboy's https://twitter.com/damageboy/status/1194751035136450560 tweet showing a 20% performance hit, but was later changed by mods to link to the phoronix.com article.


Isn't this a whole lot of words for installing traefik with DNS challenge and let it do basically all of the work?


Fault? He is getting free publicity to the point he is even on the front page of HN (not that he care about this specifically). Show me the last time this happened with a French book up for a prize.


Would be interesting to see how xsv compared to miller (https://johnkerl.org/miller/doc/index.html) in terms of perf, this tool comes exactly as I am about to munge 1TB of gzipped csv files.

Unfortunately, the main operation I need is not supported by xsv...


What is the operation that you need? Can you send a PR?


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