The line in the sand for what amounts to deception changes when it’s a direct response to a deceptive attack.
If you’re attempting to deceive a system into revealing secrets and it reveals fake secrets, is it fair to claim that you were deceived? I would say it’s more fair to claim that the attack simply failed to overcome those defenses.
Without reading the article I visualized the analogies mentioned in these comments as a house that you still have the potential to get several windows out of reliably, and importantly - you wouldn’t be missing a corner from an otherwise perfect window.
The house soaks up environmental damage to keep identifiable windows intact, vs a pile of mostly broken / not-up-to-spec windows.
I just thought it was a good example of something written long ago that’s only grown in relevance over time, and with LLMs we can see clearly what he envisioned. The people who don’t want to dig deeper and really wrap their head around a subject can just recite the words without ever having done that.
obviously i've seen it, but i never wrote anything in it, it makes my eyes hurt. I still use modplug tracker / openMPT (openmpt.org, funded until 2032!), and taught my youngest how to open and play songs with it, and i have a lot of files it can open. thousands.
If anyone is interested in the difference between "AI slop" and something with a couple thousand credits into it, here's my #soundseasons entry (I don't expect to place; the end needs work I didn't have the energy for (and I mean even if I did...)):
Here's another one I put a bit of time into, but with a much simpler structure. What I appreciated about the original were the emotions it stirred up when the notes came together just-so:
When you ignore the stuff that humans shouldn't get credit for - e.g. I didn't "make" this song, or play any part in its "production", but I did "curate" it - there's still something left to give credit for, right? It's basically like a DJ digging through a mysterious crate of records.
Brackets such as [Verse] help provide waveform separation in the edit view so that you can easily edit that section without manually dragging the slider.
Others such as [Interrupt] will provide a DJ-like fade-out / announcement (that was <Artist name>, next up..." / fade-in - providing an opportunity to break the AI out of repetitive loops it obsesses about.
I've used [Bridge] successfully, and [Instrumental] [No vocals] work reliably as well (there are also instrumental options, but I still use brackets out of habit I guess).
ChatGPT Pro tip: In addition to video generation, you can use this new image gen functionality in Sora and apply all of your custom templates to it! I generated this template (using my Sora Preset Generator, which I think is public) to test reasoning and coherency within the image:
Theme: Educational Scientific Visualization – Ultra Realistic Cutaways
Color: Naturalistic palettes that reflect real-world materials (e.g., rocky grays, soil browns, fiery reds, translucent biological tones) with high contrast between layers for clarity
Camera: High-resolution macro and sectional views using a tilt-shift camera for extreme detail; fixed side angles or dynamic isometric perspective to maximize spatial understanding
Film Stock: Hyper-realistic digital rendering with photogrammetry textures and 8K fidelity, simulating studio-grade scientific documentation
Lighting: Studio-quality three-point lighting with soft shadows and controlled specular highlights to reveal texture and depth without visual noise
Vibe: Immersive and precise, evoking awe and fascination with the inner workings of complex systems; blends realism with didactic clarity
Content Transformation: The input is transformed into a hyper-detailed, realistically textured cutaway model of a physical or biological structure—faithful to material properties and scale—enhanced for educational use with visual emphasis on internal mechanics, fluid systems, and spatial orientation
Examples:
1. A photorealistic geological cutaway of Earth showing crust, tectonic plates, mantle convection currents, and the liquid iron core with temperature gradients and seismic wave paths.
2. An ultra-detailed anatomical cross-section of the human torso revealing realistic organs, vasculature, muscular layers, and tissue textures in lifelike coloration.
3. A high-resolution cutaway of a jet engine mid-operation, displaying fuel flow, turbine rotation, air compression zones, and combustion chamber intricacies.
4. A hyper-realistic underground slice of a city showing subway lines, sewage systems, electrical conduits, geological strata, and building foundations.
5. A realistic cutaway of a honeybee hive with detailed comb structures, developing larvae, worker bee behavior zones, and active pollen storage processes.
If you’re attempting to deceive a system into revealing secrets and it reveals fake secrets, is it fair to claim that you were deceived? I would say it’s more fair to claim that the attack simply failed to overcome those defenses.