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Is there really any difference between 13" MBP and 13" MB apart from unibody? (and is it worth the price difference?)


As of the update today the MBP is more desirable: significantly better better life, twice the RAM, slightly faster CPU and that slick unibody case which is thinner and lighter.

Before the refresh the MB was the best bang for buck.


The macbook pro 13" is worth the money for the unibody alone. I own a 13MB and the white plastic case is cracking in more places then I care to mention. I got them to fix it once, and only because it was their fault. They just don't hold up build quality wise. The only negative part about the unibody is my wife doesn't like the feel of the metal, it gives her the willies, but I can't fault Apple for that one.


The regular MacBook is also unibody now and seems to be pretty close to the MBP in terms of build quality.


Yeah, the white unibody has a very nice build to it; it doesn't seem like it will crack. But only time will tell.


>They just don't hold up build quality wise.

Really? I have a black MB that just passed the 2 year mark and it looks pristine. I carry it in my backpack every day, I took it with me on a three month trip through South America, and yet it has no scratches, cracks, or other signs of damage.


Which generation MB are you talking about? A one with polycarbonate unibody or something older?


Nothing too much performance-wise. The new plastic one is even, at least in name, unibody. But it has a glossy keyboard area which you can scratch up pretty easily with a watch strap (I tried this at the store).

Looks like they put in a new battery in the Pro, and it has a fancier graphics card, SD card reader, and Firewire.

To me, the Al casing is worth a bit more money and wouldn't mind an SD reader, so I'd watch the Apple refurb store for last-gen Pros (which is what I did in January).


• Firewire

• SD card slot

• Now longer battery life with pro


Given how evasive the salesman at my local Apple store was when I asked that question recently I imagine it's not much of a difference.


before today's release there was no difference, now the only difference is GPU


... And RAM, CPU speed, several more hours of battery life, backlit keyboard, thinner/lighter design.


macbook doesn't have backlit keyboard!? wtf


I don't think the non-pro model can drive a 30" monitor.


both had Nvidia GeForce 9400M


Intel X-25M has TRIM support in the controller itself, and thats the way it should be I believe


Unfortunately while there are strategies to mitigate the problem in hardware, proper TRIM support is still best. You might be getting confused by the TRIM enabled firmware that was released in December '09 for that SSD? It just means that the Intel drive will obey TRIM commands from the OS. But if the OS doesn't send any commands, which OS X won't, then you're not taking advantage of TRIM. For what it's worth, if you were going to choose a drive that would degrade the least in performance without the use of TRIM, you probably chose best with the Intel X-25M. But it would still perform better over time in Linux or Windows 7.


The drive does not know when data stored on the drive is “deleted”. This is what TRIM is for, i.e. when you delete a file you just unlink the inode. You need to tell the drive that the blocks that the file occupied are no longer needed, so the disk can ignore that data when reorganizing or later rewriting part of the block.


Corei5 does NOT support HyperThreading unlike Corei7


That's incorrect. All mobile Core i5 processors have HyperThreading.

http://ark.intel.com/ProductCollection.aspx?familyID=43483

In fact, there are only two Core i* processors that don't have HyperThreading support, and they're both variants of the same quad-core Core i5 desktop processor (Core i5 750 and Core i5 750S):

http://ark.intel.com/ProductCollection.aspx?familyID=42912


HP Mini 311 would be the best netbook to hackintosh.


I am a Software Engineer. I love Mac OS X, but I cannot afford to even buy a $999 MB. Even if I buy a $499 iPad, I would still need a device for my programming needs.


I have a Dell Mini 10v running 10.6.2 currently and everything works out of the box, but the screen is NOT 1366x800 and does NOT have an integrated GPU (like IoN)


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