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We are not at the moment where price matters. All that matters is performance.

What did you say? Cant hear you over the $400B in capex spend.

Counterpoint: price will matter before we hit AGI


Why do you believe it has to? Uber took 15 years to show a profit. 15 years from 2022 when chatgpt launched is 2037. That's long enough that to say I don't know if I'll even be alive by then.

Uber didnt burn the market cap of the 10th largest company in the world every couple of years.

It matters to me. I pay for it and I like using it. I pick my models to keep my spend reigned in.

What do you use it for? What is your time worth that you'd settle for a lesser model to save a few bucks?

Homelab and hobby assistant. I have spent $300 for 12 months of tokens. If I'm burning up more than $25 a month then I'd have to pay more or curb use at the end of the year. $25 / month as a new expense is something I can accept for a toy that is letting me accelerate my fun stuff. I can't justify more than that. So I'm left constantly evaluating if my current task is worth more than future tasks and if it is expected to be harder than future tasks. Speculative execution is already one of the harder things I do at work.

A $200/m max subscriber using OpenCode and not wanting to use API keys with pay-per-token pricing is very clearly trying to get around paying for tokens.

Is there any limits to that users 200/month? Why should they not be able to use the limits to the extent from other tools?

If openclaw chews my 200/month up in 15 days... I don't get more requests for free


There is no monthly limit, it (currently) is a weekly and 5-hourly limit. If they allow anyone to use any tool with their subscription service, you could have a system (like OpenClaw) which involves 0 human interaction and is constantly consuming 100% of your token limit, then waiting until limits reset to do it all over again. It seems fairly clear that Anthropic is probably losing money on such usage patterns.

Once again: you can use API keys and pricing to get UNLIMITED usage whenever you want. If you are choosing to pay for a subscription instead, it is because Anthropic is offering those subscriptions at a much better value-per-token. They are not offering such a subscription out of the goodness of their heart.


There are 4 weeks in a month.

4 periods of weekly limits, is a monthly limit.


That's... not how that works. Might as well say Anthropic has a 63 day limit (cuz that's 9 weeks).

The point of the first half of my comment is that you cannot chew through your tokens in 15 days, because although the billing cycle is monthly, the limits are not.


4 weeks * 12 months = 48 weeks in a year * 7 days in a week = 336 days per year - close enough :)

A significant part of the capex is just energy, so even if there is some sort of AI black swan event and the data centers become obsolete overnight (unlikely), energy is literally the root of all bounty so it is good that something is incentivizing increased resource allocation in that area.

How is that absurd? If I own land and want to build 650 new homes, what exactly is the argument for stopping me, besides "I don't like it"?


With infra-as-code, an LLM can also set up and maintain infra. Security is another issue and 100% that still seems to be the biggest footgun with agentic software development, but honestly that is mostly just a prompting/context issue. You can definitely get an LLM to write secure code, it is just arguably not any model's "default".


The problem is not if the LLM writes secure code. The problem is if you can know and understand that the code is reasonably secure. And that requires pretty deep understanding of the program and that understanding is (for most people) built by developing the program.

I am not sure how it's for others byt for me it's a lot harder to read chunk of code to understand and verify it than to take the problem head on with code and then maybe consult it using LLM.


I think the industry is going to end up with exceptional software engineers organizing and managing many average coding assistants. The problem is the vast majority of us are not exceptional software engineers (obviously).


I tried Voiden and like the idea, but in the end I think the notebook format felt a bit too freeform for an API tool. To me the point of an API tool is clarity of what I am doing and how they translates into code.

On a product note, I don't think the logo matches the name at all.


That why I love the git-backed notebook format. You can add clarity and explain what it's doing and how it translates into code.


Thank you! Anything we can do better ?



The guy who wrote Insomnia sold it - https://yaak.app/blog/yet-another-api-client and ended up writing a new one, https://yaak.app/


thanks for the points- on the product comment: in what way you think it doesn't fit? genuinely interested.


I suppose part of the problem is that I don't understand why "Voiden" in the first place, but if we assume Voiden is a good name:

The logo neither says "voids" nor "API tool". It is a blocky infinity symbol that to me means nothing in-context. Also the duotone and slight asymmetry (of a normally symmetric symbol) gives hints of duality/gemini, which also means nothing to me in the context of what the tool is and the name that it has.


Not parent, but the name makes me think of void, so nothing, while the logo is a infinity symbol, so everything, seems like opposites :)


well void is also the blank slate in the sense that Voiden is a tool without rules - without explicit directions to the users on how they should do xyz. So yeah, our inspiration comes from an empty sheet, a blank slate to work with APIs. And if there are no restrictions then there are infinite opportunities. :) thts how it makes sense to us.


Destroying Medicaid would in fact solve the problem, that's true.


How does that work? As a US citizen, no amount of "harassment" is going to stop me from voting.


Voter registration gets names cross referenced to facebook gets you face recognition (Palantir can do this). Ice claims that facial recognition on their app is probable cause (Ice already claim this).

Ice goes down the lines at voting stations to "protect from undocumented aliens voting illegally". The government endorsed news stories will be about how many illegals were trying to vote. Meanwhile a bunch of US citizens were taken for processing due to false positives and unfortunately with such large numbers to process they aren't all released until polling stations are closed. (If only someone hadn't botched the facial recognition database update and contaminated it with a bunch of Dem voters).

If rioting against these actions occurs at a station, it's closed for safety and people in area are detained while it's sorted (the stations targeted had a tendency to vote D anyway as per voter roles).

Strange how that 'harassment' did stop US citizens from voting.

Results come in while the case for voter suppression goes to the Supreme court. Supreme court rules that while voter suppression did occur there is no legal option of redress within its permit and the peaceful transfer of power is more important than any one election A la Bush V Gore.


Seeing as the harassment has escalated to murder of citizens, I'm not so sure how you can say that.

Less sensationally, they'll just crank up ID requirements and wait times to suppress your vote.


Wait times happen at a local level, not federally.

I don't know how they could possibly crank up ID requirements that would get in my way: I have a passport and a REAL ID driver's license.


Are you a citizen, can you prove it at the polling station? I am doubtful you are, and your documents if you have them don't seem legit enough, so I think we'll set your vote aside, or possibly prevent it from being cast; we can't be too sure!


It doesn't matter whether you can prove it. ICE's current position [0] is that their face scanning app supercedes documents like birth certificates to determine status.

[0] https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/10/ices-forced-face...


Well that's insane. I hadn't heard that.


> Are you a citizen, can you prove it at the polling station?

Yes, I have multiple documents proving my citizenship. Never been asked though, ID always sufficed.

> so I think we'll set your vote aside, or possibly prevent it from being cast; we can't be too sure!

I have voted in more than one state (legally, I moved) never seen any voting place asking for any documents except for state ID and voter roll check. I don't think there is any voting place where local state ID is not "legit enough".


Look up Jim Crow. It's not hypothetical.


What's not hypothetical? Sure, there once existed racist laws in the US. How does it relate to establishing citizenship or presumedly some documents proving citizenship being considered "not legit enough"?


Isn’t the Safeguard American Voter Eligibility act going to stop married women who have changes their last name from what was on their birth certificate from voting?


Wrong https://www.americanhistory.si.edu/explore/exhibitions/ameri...

There has been many ways to stop you from voting, contesting your vote, calling your registration into account, imitating tests that are impossible to validate if you are intelligent enough to vote, etc

Spend some time educating yourself on how voting suppression has worked historically and you wont sound so ignorant.


While a required literacy test may be a form of voter suppression, it is not "harassment", which is what we are discussing.


Nonetheless, it was successfully implemented for about 100 years in the US.


you should read up on efforts to suppress the vote of certain US citizens, especially those who are poor and/or of color


When talking about government services, how do you have privacy? Does one not need to perform audits, etc?

This is why I personally prefer more devolved spending – at the federal level it is far too much centralized power.


A good one, but an LLM has no conception of "want".

Also the golden rule as a basis for an LLM agent wouldn't make a very good agent. There are many things I want Claude to do that I would not want done to myself.


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