I advise having a read through Sapolskys book "Determined" to get another perspective

I appreciate the recommendation and I will read it (I also appreciate that you made a recommendation instead of downvoting me), however I don't think free will has much to do with this. If they were predetermined to be like this then I have sympathy for the bad dice roll, but once they've stomped an infant to death they're always that person. It doesn't change much about how to deal with them; you can't trust that they won't do it again no matter how much time passes, and that means that saying sorry and making Pascal's wager come off as completely hollow.

"If they were predetermined to be like this..."

Lack of free will is not the same is predeterminism.

What is your goal in asking someone to read this book, we're supposed to have sympathy for those who have had a bad rap in nature and nurture.

That 'the system' is responsible for driving them to their actions ?

> That 'the system' is responsible for driving them to their actions ?

not the system, but the design of life itself we all sustain. the "system" is only a projection of it.

everything that happens in the world is your responsibility also, as you help make it happen. it's our world after all.

if something happens but is not supposed to happen, either the person made a mistake, or the design is broken and nudges to make it happen, or both. blame-the-person is the default strategy, but it doesn't lead to a better design, and it denies the plain reality that the design puts some people at the center, so they can party and are not to be bothered by the downsides of their actions, and others are pushed to the edge, and will fall off. by design.

you probably prefer to pay the police than to pay someone a meal so she doesn't need to steal and expose herself to the risk of killing someone. it's what people at the center would think, but it's not a good idea to give them power over the design of our lives that puts them first.

there's clearly worthless trash on both sides of the equation.

> everything that happens in the world is your responsibility also, as you help make it happen. it's our world after all.

No, there clearly are things that are 'outside the individual or groups control'. There are three kinds of events, things we can control, things we have partial control, and things we can't control.

Nobody is responsible for the sun rising, nobody is responsible for gravity. Nobody is responsible for another persons actions, each person has choice, love it or hate it they do.

If you can't see that I don't know what to say, we fundamentally have a disagreement on reality.

If individuals are 'responsible' for everything, we all should share the same yolk of punishment for individual actions, and this should extend to all sentient life, why stop at people, why not kill their pets and farm animals, trees and plants nearby, (I assume this is what you want, see what i did there ?)

> you probably prefer to pay the police than to pay someone a meal so she doesn't need to steal and expose herself to the risk of killing someone

Please don't assume my take on caring for people, this take is very wrong.

> there's clearly worthless trash on both sides of the equation.

Right back at ya ;P

What would "abuse" of an LLM look like? Saying something mean to it? Shutting it off?

Seeing a borderline hustle culture article illustrated with AI slop in the style of Bill Watterson, who famously opposed commercial exploitation of his work, is deeply saddening.

Is this some sort of joke/reference I'm not getting?

No, they're just a troll.

> im lucky i've made pro Trump comments

Once implemented, such regulation will stay even if trump leaves. When the democrats take over again, this will be used against you.

I agree that they will never get the gold back, but is it really more likely that the US hands over that sum in cash?

"Why d'you think the net was born? Porn, Porn, Porn"

Adult conversation mode is just the start.

I don’t see what’s wrong with someone wanting to return to their home country instead of staying and risking a middle of the night policy change resulting in their residency status being cancelled and ICE dragging them and their children out of bed at night.

If one must point fingers, a better target is those actually in power.

you're never gonna be able to convince me that i owe some debt to a country/nation that barely ever tolerated me to begin with, you understand this right? also "i'm leaving" isn't "fuck you" in the least, it's just "i'm leaving".

Maybe not the answer you are looking for, but rumor has it that engineers at VW were well aware of points like those you raise. However the CEO at that time, Herbert Diess, outspoken admirer of Musk/Tesla, pushed for touch interfaces anyways.

Interesting thought. In the end, this is an ethical question: How much pressure is justified to put on the general population for supporting their leaders?

My feeling is that your perspective, likely shared by people like Bomber Harris or Netanyahu, does not match most peoples intuition nowadays.

I beg to differ. Accepting that tens of millions in Germany supported Hitler frenetically, thus declaring themselves enemies of everyone who was a Jew, a Democrat, a Citizen of any neighbouring country etc.pp., doesn’t mean that bombing cities to the ground is morally or legally justified, as long as there are other alternatives (and there have been, both for Harris, and for Netanyahu). The point really is: most Germans saw themselves as enemies of Freedom, Equality, and Peace. Both inside and outside of Germany. You cannot treat someone as a friend who’s violently proving the see you as the enemy.