> I've always fed our observations from Seek into iNaturalist since I though it was the "right" thing to do. Now I'm questioning it.
Why? The author explicitly encourages people to keep using and contributing to iNaturalist, both data and donations. What did you read that made you disagree with them?
Yes, he does. And I will. But he also suggests that users organize and that cessation of data or money or "withdrawing your data would be a reasonable form of protest".
There are dozens, if not far more, of captcha solver API's for extremely cheap. Captcha is very shallow bot "security" theater, they just deter the cheapest attempts.
latest greatest versions of captcha are more resilient to these types of services, but it's a cat and mouse game. I would recommend that you, as a sysadmin, learn at least the most basic things about this stuff.
> I would recommend that you, as a sysadmin, learn at least the most basic things about this stuff.
This sort of language is inappropriate and unnecessarily combative.
In any event, no filter screen is perfect. Getting rid of 80% of bot traffic is a good thing, even if you can't rid yourself of 100% of it. You can't let perfect be the enemy of "pretty good."
People use CAPTCHAs because they work--even if imperfectly. Of course, you have to stay on top of the latest implementations.
The GP comment was appealing to their own authority in a condescending way, I feel the tone was matched, but thanks for the feedback.
What you’re saying is true, although you can do simple blocks on user agent + geo ip alone and accomplish blocking a majority of bots anyway without captcha - but I’ll digress - that is not the topic of discussion. I’m not at all arguing that CAPTCHA doesn’t stop bot traffic - in fact my first comment says the opposite. Most bot traffic is extremely “dumb.” A mistake people make, which the gp comment seemed to, is that it stops bots dead.
I think it depends on how determined the actor is. I see all the range from your simple scripts to full on mimicking real user behavior that I can only really spot from the honeypots they hit.
You'd probably catch most the low hanging fruit for sure, but you would cause friction for real users.
I say this as someone who has enabled captcha on some of our more critical endpoints, there's definitely a place for it.
My website's contact form has a reCAPTCHA and it still gets spam sent through it (though vastly less). They pass the reCAPTCHA somehow. My contact form literally only emails me and they still do it.
This is both true and misleading. It implies captchas aren’t effective due to these services. In practice, though, a good captcha cuts a ton of garbage traffic even though a motivated opponent can pay for circumvention.
Is there any American style guide that insists hyphens be avoided even when a closed compound would cause ambiguity? I follow Chicago, but I imagine other style guides also already emphasise clarity.
A 2025 article, "Musk ordered shutdown of Starlink satellite service as Ukraine retook territory from Russia":
> KYIV - During a pivotal push by Ukraine to retake territory from Russia in late September 2022, Elon Musk gave an order that disrupted the counteroffensive and dented Kyiv’s trust in Starlink, the satellite internet service the billionaire provided early in the war to help Ukraine’s military maintain battlefield connectivity.
> “We have to do this,” Michael Nicolls, the Starlink engineer, told colleagues upon receiving the order, one of these people said. Staffers complied, the three people told Reuters, deactivating at least a hundred Starlink terminals, their hexagon-shaped cells going dark on an internal map of the company’s coverage. The move also affected other areas seized by Russia, including some of Donetsk province further east.
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> After the book was published, Musk denied a shutdown, saying that there had never been coverage in Crimea to begin with. He said he had, rather, rejected a Ukrainian request to provide service ahead of Kyiv’s planned attack. Isaacson later conceded his account was flawed. A spokesperson at Isaacson’s publisher declined to comment or make him available for an interview.
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> As Ukraine’s counterattack intensified, Russian President Vladimir Putin on September 21, 2022, ordered a partial mobilization of reservists, Russia’s first since World War II. He also threatened to use nuclear weapons if Russia’s own “territorial integrity” were at risk. Around this time, Musk engaged in weeks of backchannel conversations with senior officials in the administration of President Joe Biden, according to three former U.S. government officials and one of the people familiar with Musk’s order to stop service. During those conversations, the former White House staffer told Reuters, U.S. intelligence and security officials expressed concern that Putin could follow through on his threats. Musk, this person added, worried too, and asked U.S. officials if they knew where and how Ukraine used Starlink on the battlefield.
Although interestingly, as that wikipedia article also points out, people did go down into the 40s quite a bit during the Age of Sail (the famous clipper route), because the strong prevailing winds meant it was the fastest way to get around the world. This comes up quite often in the Aubrey-Maturin novels by Patrick O'Brian.
If you're not a sailing ship, you don't benefit from the winds, so those latitudes are pretty empty nowadays.
I hiked Torres del Paine around 51 deg south about 12 years ago and the winds were no joke. On plains or in mountain passes it was absolutely howling. It felt like you could lean into it at a 60 deg angle and not fall over. Sometimes when the trail went close to a steep edge with nothing to break the wind I felt like I needed to crouch, ready to get on the ground, in case a gust caught me.
Your wrong assumption has made you look like a reactionary ass.
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