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Fastmail is based in Australia [1], not Germany.

[1]: https://www.fastmail.com/company/about/


Fastmail's servers are apparently located in the United States[1] - and the Netherlands, but there doesn't seem to be a way to know in which country your specific mailboxes are stored.

> Our colocation providers could be compelled to give physical access to our servers. Network capturing devices could be installed. And in the worst case an attacker could simply force their way into the datacentre and physically remove our servers.

So as far as warrantless surveillance is concerned, Fastmail is no better than if it were a US company or subsidiary thereof. They may themselves not be in a position where they would have to comply with US requests that would be illegal in Australia but whoever is operating their US-based DC absolutely is and they admit as much, even if they handwave this scenario as being no different from an ordinary hacking attempt[2].

[1]: https://www.fastmail.com/blog/fastmails-servers-are-in-the-u...

[2]: Of course the flaw in this comparison is that an ordinary hacker can't make on-site staff comply with their demands and prohibit them from disclosing the hack. To do so without the authority of the law, you'd need a Hollywood action movie level of criminal enterprise that would usually involve taking a retired police officer's granddaughter hostage for some reason.


Fastmail can't be trusted.

Australia has some fairly draconian digital laws that authorities can issue notices requiring developers to assist with an investigation. This can include technical assistance which could require companies to build capability for law enforcement to break the encryption used in their services.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2024/nov/05/sessi...

https://www.404media.co/encrypted-chat-app-session-leaves-au...


Fastmail can be trusted because it's operated by trustworthy individuals, with a company from a country that's still an ally.

If you don't want surveillance, you'd better not use email.


It can't be trusted because it is incorporated in Australia which has draconian digital survellience laws.

Operated by trustworthy individuals is a moot point when they are compelled by law to build in a backdoor if asked. Even a warrant canary is forbidden.


You're repeating the same information as in the comment I'm replying to.

The surveillance laws, no matter how often you repeat the word "draconian", are irrelevant because…

Email isn't safe, and most of your email probably ends up on Google's or Microsoft's servers anyway, in which case US companies can be coerced by the US government to give them everything they have, while not being able to tell the public about it. And they do just that, a fact that came to light with Snowden's revelations. Australia cannot be worse than the US.

For emails, the government surveillance is irrelevant, as it happens anyway. And solutions like Proton Email are just privacy theatre that also happen to interact poorly with established standards (e.g., SMTP, IMAP).

I also fear Australia much less than I fear the US these days. I have always feared the US, especially due to their massive security apparatus, but at least I considered them valuable allies. These days we'll just add some extra fear points due to the techno-fascists in charge, voted-in by the people with a popular vote.

Whenever I see such comments on popular forums, such as HN, I lose faith in humanity a little, either because people don't think about the threat model (this being vibes-based) or the consequences of boycotting the underdogs, or because they are disingenuous about it.

Fastmail is a fine service, built and operated by trustworthy people, which also contribute to standards (e.g. JMAP) and to open source. A service that's also not monetized by ad-tech, unlike what the Big Tech email services are doing.


> Fastmail is a fine service, built and operated by trustworthy people

Yes, but their data centers aren't because they're operated by someone else in the US.

Fastmail is slightly better than using a US-based e-mail provider but it's still de facto US-based e-mail even if the company you sign up with sits in Australia. They don't control their own data centers and their data centers are in the US (whether they have additional data centers elsewhere doesn't matter if they're not transparent about which data center your data will go to).


“Warrantless surveillance” was yesterday's concern, back when Snowden's revelations were in the news.

Today the concern is war, both economic and literal.

From that perspective, I'll gladly use Australian, or Canadian online services, while avoiding using US ones for as much as possible. Note, I don't think it will be long before services like Fastmail will start moving their servers. Again, yesterday the US was an ally, whereas today the writing is on the wall.


Seeing as this is closely related to [1], which I also commented on, and in the hopes that someone finds this useful regarding Discord's ownership of your data (where your messages remain even if you delete your account):

If you'd like to delete your Discord messages en masse, I made an open-source tool for that [2]. It leverages a fairly undocumented process using your Discord data package, providing a UI to explore it and choose what to export. The tool gives you step-by-step instructions and a CSV file that Discord expects when you contact their privacy team. It works across all channels in both servers and DMs, even those you no longer have access to.

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43276504

[2]: https://discorch.org


If you'd like to delete your Discord messages en masse, I made an open-source tool for that [1]. It leverages a fairly undocumented process using your Discord data package, providing a UI to explore it and choose what to export. The tool gives you step-by-step instructions and a CSV file that Discord expects when you contact their privacy team. It works across all channels in both servers and DMs, even those you no longer have access to.

[1]: https://discorch.org


According to Discord's public server list [1], Midjourney has over 21M members, making it the largest server. Discord published a technical blog post [2] detailing the infrastructure work needed to support Midjourney's unprecedented scale with 1M+ concurrent users.

[1] https://discord.com/servers [2] https://discord.com/blog/maxjourney-pushing-discords-limits-...


My mistake, I should have put the link to their public stats in the first place.

Thank you for fixing it!


Currently, standalone Next.js apps using App Router consume a lot of memory and leak memory over time (issue #49929 has been open for over a month). I would greatly appreciate it if the Next.js team could investigate this matter (see my comment here: https://github.com/vercel/next.js/issues/49929#issuecomment-...). As it stands, this issue is preventing me from adopting App Router for new projects.


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