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Tangentially related, I sous vide some pork chops about a month ago, and forgot to take them out of the water bath in time for safe cool down and consumption.

I decided to keep them submerged in water in their original vacuum sealed bags, just to see what would happen.

So far, 1 month later, in about 16c water, they APPEAR the same. No gas buildup expanding the packaging and causing floatation. Just white looking meat in a bag.

Not sure how long this experiment will last, but considering 4 pork chops, I think it's time to take one out and open it up.


I’m curious, there is no right time for safe consumption with sous vide, if the temperature is high enough (>53C), just avoid turning it off with the food still inside. If the temperature is kept constant, remove immediately at any point for serving, or into an ice bath. 72h or even 96h cooks are very common.

At 16C you’re definitely breeding a nasty bacterial soup, it’s probably just having a slow start due to being sterilized initially. The plastic is also slightly porous and stuff will start leaking in & out until the water is dirty.

The Sous Vide Everything channel on YouTube has an experiment cooking a brisket for a month. It works, but you end up with terrible tasting mush.


My apologies, I was referring to immediately putting sous vide items in a 50+% ice bath. I had turned off the Sous Vide and forgot about it. When I came back, the 10 gallon bucket was close to room temperature 24 hours later.

Upon further reading, it appears I could have served it immediately. Maybe. But the warm pasturization won't kill certain bacteria which can then proliferate. Which is why transiting the danger zone of 140f down to 40f very fast is necessary.

"Moreover, while keeping the food sealed in plastic pouches prevents recontamination after cooking, spores of Clostridium botulinum, C. perfringens and B. cereus can all survive the mild heat treatment of pasteurization. Therefore, after rapid chilling, the food must either be frozen or held at

    below 36.5°F (2.5°C) for up to 90 days,
    below 38°F (3.3°C) for less than 31 days,
    below 41°F (5°C) for less than 10 days, or
    below 44.5°F (7°C) for less than 5 days
to prevent spores of non-proteolytic C. botulinum from outgrowing and producing deadly neurotoxin (Gould, 1999; Peck, 1997)." [1]

[1] https://www.cheftalk.com/threads/sous-vide-botulism.63351/


Yes, but everybody is a Nazi, so who cares. Buy them if you want.


I'm not a Nazi, and I don't want to buy shitty cryptocurrency profile pics. If you do, that's your problem -- and one you should discuss with a qualified professional.


TL:DR; toilet seats and bathrooms are perfectly safe. Wash your hands.

I must be a very dirty person, because this article is very pedantic, and I would never consider any of these suggestions. I don't even wash my hands half the time, just run them under water so the other people in the house think I am civil and wash my hands after flushing the toilet.

Squat if you have the muscles, but be sure to aim because you might increase the risk to the next person?

This is just so absurd to me to be lectured by Health Officials and the NYT with then providing solutions to problems that dont exist.

Like seriously, the ONLY pathogen they could identify that COULD be picked up by the butt skin is MRSA. It's low risk, there are no stats or proof that MRSA is transmitted through public washroom seats.

And that risk averseness is parlayed into a virtue signalling lecture about squatting to avoid the non-risky public toilet seat, BUT OF COURSE be sure to (not shit everywhere) protect your fellow citizen from the non-risk of sitting on a dirty toilet seat.

I'm sick of the nanny state and all its parts.


I can get in this state too, Lightheaded helps, worn out helps, tired eyes from looking at a screen helps.

Then for some immediate relief, I will squeeze my nose bridge from the eye socket from both sides.

And in that moment of relaxation, I will see stars. Probably from starting to breath slower, it's a lack of oxygen caused faintness, then the light and fractals and patterns come in. If I relax, and dont blink, just chill, they will slowly grow larger. Blink or stop focusing and it goes away.

I think it has something to do with the liquid environment of the eye, and how tired and watery it can be. Squeezing that water away to another part seems to short circuit the eye and give fuzzy electrical sparks and fractal patterns.


This seems to be a wishful article. The signed letter is either "activist employees" (fireable offense), or about "working conditions" (wrongful termination due to retaliation)

"It strikes me as a letter that is mainly about working conditions,’ one lawyer said" (original article)

Vs.

“Elon’s behavior in the public sphere is a frequent source of distraction and embarrassment for us, particularly in recent weeks,” the letter states. “As our CEO and most prominent spokesperson, Elon is seen as the face of SpaceX — every Tweet that Elon sends is a de facto public statement by the company. It is critical to make clear to our teams and to our potential talent pool that his messaging does not reflect our work, our mission, or our values.” [1]

I know exactly what that paragraph sounds like to me..... Whiney SJWs.

[1] https://www.theverge.com/2022/6/16/23170228/spacex-elon-musk...


Heating a single room as opposed to a house can allow electrically generated heat to make sense.

Keep the house at 66, heat one room at a time to 70.


I like to keep my mining rig on a handtruck, and then I cart it from room to room to keep warm. The children so love gathering around it, warming their hands by the ASICs, as they listen to their father tell spooky stories about fiat currency and central banking and the time we had a real house with a working furnace and lost it because daddy leveraged it with an adjustable rate mortgage to buy a dumb ape avatar on Twitter.


Horrible, horrible, irrelevant study taking advantage of a public health crisis to use government money to study propoganda techniques on humanity.

They had "robust" finding before the vaccine was even out. It turns out you CAN mock and shame people into compliance when they know next to nothing and have very little experience in the subject. Makes complete sense. I'm only picking an arguement or a fight when I have an arguement to make. How do you push back against this stuff when there is no COVID vaccine history to use as supporting evidence? You don't. Just ignore. But when FORCED to make a declaration, people choose the easy way out.

After the vaccine had been out for 10 months, memes had no effect.

So do memes work? Or does mockery work? Or does it take ignorance of a subject AND mockery to get theoretical compliance?

The study is self reported. Would be interested to know the ACTUAL vaccination outcomes of these individuals.

I would suspect some would be resentful of being mocked, say the right things, and retaliate by not taking the vaccine.


I think that when you get offered pay to do a task, and accept that pay for that task, that you give up the right to bitch about said task.


I thought this was a good thing? All that extra money goes to development of new and novel treatments that trickle down to everyone everywhere in the world.

Go ahead, destroy that and watch the world suffer. Including the people that can only get Medicare and Medicare.


I'm down for eating ugly fish! lionfish is my favourite. A natural predator at the top of the food chain, this invasive species is one of the fattiest fish in the ocean. An absolute treat.

But this monkfish, it's lean and tough?


I would love to try Lion Fish. I didn't know they where a fish that was eaten. Any ideas where you can get it at in Southern California besides the local pet store? :-D


They are an invasive species, any speargun fisher might be able to help you.

Last time I was in Jamaica I paid a fisherman $15 to hunt one down for me. A local seasoned and steam cooked it in tinfoil and we shared it.

That's usually how I do it..... Catch a hunter in the AM, eat in the PM.


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