Israel has already obliterated Iranian air defense and flattened the surroundings.
Can someone tell me why the US or Israel can’t just fly in a Seal Team that goes into the facility, plants a bunch of C4 and calls it a day? They can surely ringfence and defend the area by putting fighter jets and a couple hundred drones in the air while the operation is ongoing.
Note for those not clicking, the failure had absolutely nothing to do with resistance from Iran, or anything Iran did. It had to do with operational issues, including 3 failed helicopters out of the 8. Upon Carter accepting recommendations to abort, a 4th crashed resulting in the 8 soldiers lost.
This happened 45 years ago, with different gear, and a lot of operations between now and then. It should have zero impact on any decision to go into Iran or not.
Of course, whether the US would go in is still a valid question, including other aspects of risk.
Indeed the failed Iran hostage rescue led directly to the formation of special operations specific helicopter units and training doctrine we have today.
And it's a really, really, really sore subject in Iran so even if it "goes well" it represents a much larger escalation than doing the same thing in a different country would.
Well, "special operations" that involves foreigners running around in sovereign countries setting of bombs tend to be a sore subject in most countries I can think of, not sure Iran is very special in that regard.
>Well, "special operations" that involves foreigners running around in sovereign countries setting of bombs tend to be a sore subject in most countries I can think of, not sure Iran is very special in that regard.
The entire point of making the comparison to "doing the same thing in another country" rather than nothing or some alternative course of action was to head off this specific nitpick.
The US already tried that thing once in the early days of the current regime (literally linked in the comment I initially replied to!) and it's one of the bigger reasons we don't have normalized relations with them, though it's perhaps a distant second to the 800lb gorilla with a little hat in the region.
Wasn't the operation planned, to rescue hostages that the regime wasn't capable of protecting? In fact, didn't care to protect? Wikipedia seems to say so.
After all, you're supposed to police your own residents, and keep them from invading embassies, which are foreign turf. You're also supposed to respect that aspect of diplomacy. Letting your citizens raid an embassy and kidnap diplomats is the act of a banana republic, and definitely signals the end of diplomacy.
If the current regime is upset at someone trying to rescue their own people kidnapped from their embassy, then frankly that regime is insane. Iran is 100% at fault for allowing that to happen, not working quickly to resolve it. The US is 100% correct to have sent people in to rescue their own people, under those circumstances.
If the embassy was better armed, with more security, they'd be completely correct to shoot-to-kill every single person who stormed that embassy. Yet sending people in to rescue them after the fact is... wrong?
Hardly, and I sincerely doubt Iran is significantly upset still. Yelling about it, sure. Upset for real? No.
So does bombing them from the air and assassinating their senior leadership (and a number of civilians who had the misfortune to be standing near them at the time)!
I'm not sure, the last time the US did this it was in Pakistan and resulted in no escalation consequences whatsoever.
(mind you, the idea that a raid on a fortified facility, rather than lightly or undefended civilian buildings, would be an easy win, is the real delusion)
Just making it up but there could be people that are in the army of the country that you are dropping into so they might need to kill each other which will escalate it to another level probably
Because the Iranians blocked the entrances with soil. There are satellite photos showing dump trucks at the entrances and the entrances being covered over.
It was a clever move on the part of Iran, because an invading force would need to bring heavy equipment with them, which isn't going to happen.
Well.. kinda? Makes me wonder about just dropping munitions on the entrance, or even just using conventional explosives.
And yes, I don't know the skill set to validate the thought. However, I have seen beaver dams cleared with dynamite, and there's a wide level of explosives which can be dropped or deployed on foot...
(People saying it would be violent, well sure, but so is dropping bunker busters...)
Yes, why can't we "just" boots-on-ground invade one of the most secure locations in another country. I'm sure that won't have any consequences whatsoever and is a totally normal thing to suggest.
Can someone tell me why the US or Israel can’t just fly in a Seal Team that goes into the facility, plants a bunch of C4 and calls it a day? They can surely ringfence and defend the area by putting fighter jets and a couple hundred drones in the air while the operation is ongoing.