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99% sure I used your copyover snippet when we first added it to our MUD like 25 years ago


I definitely used his copy over snippet when implementing it.


MUDs were how I really learned to code (in C) and how I fell in love with programming and online communities, almost 25 years ago now.


I actually run a MUD that stills uses this copyover method (primarily C code) for major code changes and migrations. We have about 100 players online at any given time! We've actually built in some more modern automatic copyover triggers and hooks related to recovering from crashes, capturing backtraces, performing database migrations, and sending/receiving systemd signals (among a lot of other modernization upgrades).


Very cool - I thought it would be a forgotten technique by now. Which MUD, and have you written up the details anywhere? I'm very interested to know what a modern version of this looks like, particularly with the systemd integration.


https://www.legendsofthejedi.com/

It originated (more than 20 years ago) as a fork of SWReality, which is itself a fork of SMAUG, which comes from DIKU, and so on and so on.

We (myself and a lot of other awesome volunteer coders over the years) have made some pretty major modifications to the codebase. It all runs on PostgreSQL now (instead of flat text files with a custom parser), it has a built-in Lua scripting interpreter for extensions and in-game interactions, it has deep integrations to our Discord community, it has sidecar web services, and much much more...


This is awesome, thanks for sharing! I used to play lots of MUDs and also the browser-based MMORPG life sim Star Wars Combine, so I don't know how I missed this back then.

By the way, you have broken link on the `Learn More About the Economy` link in the home page. Should just have it redirect to `/crafting-the-galaxy`


Thanks! We'll fix that broken link. Fwiw I also used to play SW Combine too. I think their irc server was where I first learned about MUDs.

Kind of funny how many people from LotJMUD or SWC I've met in the real world who work in tech now


That's so cool. Have you written about the MUD's history and technical evolution anywhere? If not, would you be interested in collaborating on an article like that?


HuffPo wrote a piece about us like a decade ago, and I've been meaning to write more about the technical evolution of the game..just haven't gotten around to it. Certainly interested in collaborating on something


Cool. What's the best way to reach you? I could join the LOTJ Discord and ping you there, perhaps?


That works! Just post in #general and I'll find you :)


Ha, blast from the past - I have bunch of code that is in mainline SMAUG.


Where can we find your MUD?


Posted earlier in the thread!


is still online? I would like to play to remember my good old days!


This is very cool! I have a MUD (that still has a fairly active playerbase) written in straight-up C. Been working on it 20+ years now, and always had some curiosity about rewriting it.


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I posted the clarification b/c I clicked on the link and was confused for a minute scrolling around to find the fundraising aspect.


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I noticed that AMP has recently started adding 'apps' to my launcher in Android. I visited Vimeo.com in mobile Chrome and then suddenly a Vimeo app icon with a little AMP symbol showed up in my launcher without any opt-in.


I think that's Android instant apps, not amp. It's a new Android feature that let's you use supported websites in their native app without having to download the app.

I'm not sure why it showed up on your home screen; it's not supposed to do that. What phone/launcher/Android version are you using?


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This is awesome. I've never really understood group theory before, but this helps a lot


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