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I think that's a feature not a bug for upstream projects encouraging these rewrites.


It's harmful if the license of the rewrites if less protective of users, and then the rewrite ends up being very popular.


Seems like the users are voting with their feet, right? Maybe respect the users wishes and stop preaching what users should be wanting?


Or maybe the users are just not aware. Licenses flame wars were a thing over 20 years ago, people nowadays can totally don't know about what can happen to a MIT-licensed software.


This, thank you.


Users aren't voting. A few people who work at some huge corporations are making these decisions.


Not trying to diminish broader trends in the software landscape, but this thread was talking about big established gnu software (like GPG) and newer rust based alternatives (like sequoia mentioned in the recording). This choice seems fairly unmediated by large corporations. Probably has more to do with the popularity of rust and how well they market, but the license doesn’t seem to matter that much to people.


Uh? So ubuntu replacing gnu coreutils with rust has nothing to do with ubuntu being run by a corporation?

And a single developer deciding for the entirety of the debian project just also happened to be a canonical employee by pure chance?


I didn’t realize that particular change came with a license change. Thanks for the context.


Yes, every action ever taken by a human being has been voluntary.

Moron.


Obviously I am aware that not all user actions represent choices, but the hypothetical being proposed was specifically in the context of good established free software alternatives existing. In that context users switching to software with more permissive licenses would imply a choice on the users part. It is reasonable to assume this choice implies the users value something about the other software more than they value what the GPL incumbent has to offer. Of course such a choice could be motivated by many things like newer features, slick website, the author’s marketing, but whatever the case if the license was not sufficient enticement to stay, this feels significant.


Hey, this is a completely unacceptable comment on HN. Please read the guidelines and make an effort to observe them if you want to participate here. We have to ban accounts that do this repeatedly. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


It's possible unpin the Discover feed at least. If they pull a Twitter/X and make it the default then I'll be worried.


What's the worry if you can use a different client with a different interface?


A much better summary is this Twitter/X thread: https://x.com/RealJosephus/status/1832904398831280448


How does one read this without a Twitter account? I only see one post.



First time I see xcancel. Seems to be faster than the x-thread thing.

Has it been around for a long time?


Looks to be a fork of Nitter which has been around a while. I'm guessing they've found a temporary way to get around Twitter's limits.


Wait till some idiot reposts it on Mastodon lol


> No damage-control lawyerly BS, no 'ego'

And no cutesy name for the vulnerability


The "Dragon Eater Vulnerability", that all managers will agitate about mitigating for the next 4 weeks...


SillyPutty


Canon now.


Seconded.


I think named vulnerabilities are useful when it's a "STOP THE WORLD" kind of vulnerability like Heartbleed and Shellshock. It's much easier to talk about Heartbleed than "CVE-2014-0160".

The problem, IMO, is when medium-severity vulnerabilities are given names, like Terrapin. I think it makes people think a vulnerability is much worse than it really is.


Heartbleed was a decade ago? JFC I’m getting old


Epicureanism?


Interesting.Those replies are not too different from what Eliza gives.


The first submission of this post in July only has a single comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27921133


Still running an 8 year old version for that reason. Tried switching to MacJournal once it became free but kept going back.


Same. I still use the old app on my iPhone. Syncing to Dropbox and iCloud no longer works. I periodically export to pdf as a backup. I have nine years of notes in that pdf.

At some point an iOS update is going fully break the app, but I'm still hanging on.


> I wish there was some kind of service or plugin (preferably not based on a centralized service) where one could easily leave comments on any site even if the site itself did not support comments.

IIRC the Dissenter extension was just that, albeit centralized.


There's an extension called Epiverse that does something similar. It used to have its own comment sections like Dissenter, but has since shifted to just showing discussions on reddit/HN that point to the webpage you're currently on. It's actually how I discovered HN.


The original iPhone?


Only for those that never had a Nokia 7710 on their hand.


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