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“Let me tell you, you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you,” Schumer told MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/312605-schumer-t...


One way some people suggest is at least one of the 3-letter intelligence communities will send/drop CP on their computer or phone if that congressmen doesn’t vote their way. If that’s even partially true, then it makes them more powerful than all of the elected bodies.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/2ThIfbGXWTxBITTsj18aBw


If that were true, Trump would have been carried out of Helsinki feet-first.


why, what was/happened in Helsinki?


Trump announced that he believed Putin over his own intelligence.

But then there was the time Biden installed Hunter on the White House staff and ordered that he be given a security clearance, despite dozens of discrepancies, undisclosed foreign contacts, and other red flags on the paperwork. Oh, wait, no, that was Trump, too.


The only person willing to take them on is Trump. Look at all of the fake cases and mainstream media attacking that followed. I don't think anyone can stop them now. When America is replaced as a world power that day will come.


He said a while ago that he was open to trying it in response to some shareholders who kept asking him to advertise.


This applies to discussion too.

For instance, how many Reddit comments are bots? With the extreme groupthink present there, it wouldn't be a huge shock if it already makes up over half of the comments in popular subs.


I don't even have an account on Reddit these days, but still view it regularly.

On the popular subs if you read at least half the posts (not comments) you'll see "Op is a bot that reposts content". They typically have some algorithm that digs up old popular posts that haven't been posted in a while and reposted them. With the number of people complaining they are reposted crap I have my doubts their initial upvotes legit, instead getting enough bot votes to get them on the subs front page which then gains more natural votes.



Whenever I read comments on big subredditss I'm convinced ~95% of them are astroturfing bots

Real question is who pays for 'em?


Twitter/X has a productive approach with Community Notes. Scam ads get noted.


I'm afraid Community Notes is on borrowed time, considering Musk's incensed reactions to getting noted lately.


Perhaps but surely it's a small change for them to "whitelist" accounts for exemption from community notes.


I think they're already adapting to that- posting lots and logs of slightly different ads from different accounts, probably all going to the same place.


"under-delivering"

Delivered millions of EVs that everyone said would never work, dragging the entire car industry out of its stupor.

Delivered a vast electric charging network and made it available to the competition.

Delivered the best satellite internet.

Delivered rockets that NASA uses.

Delivered the most payload to space, more than even China.

Gee, imagine under-delivering that badly.


"under-delivering" was paired with "over-promising". Elon has done some cool stuff, yeah. He promised cooler stuff and so far it hasn't been possible for lots of reasons. So you are both correct.


over delivering compared to the world, under delivering compared to where Musk wants to be


He's an engineeer that worked through this with other engineers from first principles.

You're spreading bullshit with 2 seconds of effort.


> He's an engineer that worked through this with other engineers

Who? Because you can't mean Elon, not if your objection is to people spreading bullshit...


Why?

It's like opting out of the genepool. Twitter/X is still where everything happens and where you get closest to the source.

https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=twitter.com

Even the most vocal Spaceman haters come back whenever something big is happening. This was reaffirmed again recently with the entire OpenAI CEO saga.

Add to that community notes, the single best social media innovation.


> Twitter/X is still where everything happens

It's not where the W3C happens, clearly. That statement becomes less true by the day as more and more accounts leave.


Because W3C should be supporting open platforms like Mastodon.

And community notes is a nice addition but it isn't a replacement for moderation.


It's only appropriate; ActivityPub is one of the standards they manage.

https://www.w3.org/TR/activitypub/


Community notes is the replacement for s/moderation/censorship. It's far more truthful and accurate than any s/moderation/censorship committee. This has been repeatedly demonstrated.


The problem with community notes is that it requires a quorum of users.

Which it makes it unsuitable for fast paced topics. This has been repeatedly demonstrated.


You're right that it's too slow.

It would help if they sent a notification to everyone who liked or interacted with such a tweet, to give them the community notes update. And or resurface it in the timeline.


It does. I’ve liked and quote-tweeted content that got community noted and received a notification when that happened.


>It's like opting out of the genepool.

And sometimes that's a perfectly fine thing to do.

>Twitter/X is still where everything happens and where you get closest to the source.

Please explain why this concept would be vital for W3C, and how it might be detrimental to their existence to opt out.


Community notes are great and should be copied. That they have to be used on a shitload of mundane topics cause the fascist in chief thinks "muh, free speech" is not. Hopefully, sooner or later one of the alternatives gets enough traction and this saga is over.


I think it should be copied too, but I think it’s a bit of a stretch to call Elon a fascist.


>... but I think it’s a bit of a stretch to call Elon a fascist.

At the very least, he's an enabler.


Is raging anti-semite more appropriate? The last retweet I've seen was quite explicit.


I heard he was a "speciesist" too if you want to tack that on.


Certainly at least fascist-curious.


Who knows what he personally believes but he has no trouble offering them free service, promoting them, or targeting many of the same people they dislike (journalists; groups opposed to disinformation, anti-semitism, etc.; supporters of fair elections). Perhaps that doesn’t make him a fascist but at the very least he doesn’t mind hanging out with them and laughing at their memes.


>Even the most vocal Spaceman haters come back whenever something big is happening.

they aren't coming back because it's twitter, they come back because they need to reach a lot of people. That isn't unique to twitter in the grand scheme of things, it's just the current crown bearer.


> It's like opting out of the genepool.

You misspelled cesspool.


Don't confuse tolerance for free speech with the dubious concept of hate speech and its selective application.


Ah yes, that's why he banned all those journalists who spent time reporting on the lawsuits against him, because he's all for free speech.

Nah, the dude is for his brand of free speech, which is you can hate the people he hates and you can do what he likes and you can stay on his website.


Interesting how you provided a direct counter example and your comment got flagged for it. I thought the free speech absolutist crowd wouldn’t mind someone disagreeing with them


Wow. This is a totally legitimate, reasonable comment and you got flagged for it.

I've actually never seen that on HN before -- every flagged comment I've ever looked at turned out to be full of abusive language and attacks.

It makes me sad that multiple HN'ers flagged this. :(


It demonstrably has FSD capability. Marques Brownlee has a video from last year where it drove him to his studio.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nF0K2nJ7N8


>Marques Brownlee has a video from last year where it drove him to his studio.

I don't know where to start with this if you think that one, year-old video is somehow proof that Tesla FSD is ready for use--and, say, the recall earlier this year isn't indication that maybe it's not.


Why does that article say Elon caved as though he's personally involved in every moderation decision. He wasn't even aware of it and sees it as a problem to be fixed.

"First I’ve heard. It is not possible for me to fix every aspect of Twitter worldwide overnight, while still running Tesla and SpaceX, among other things."

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1618319479662055426


>>> "First I’ve heard. It is not possible for me to fix every aspect of Twitter worldwide overnight, while still running Tesla and SpaceX, among other things."

Wow, strong "I take no responsibility" vibes from this


That’s a BS answer that makes corporate speak suddenly much better.


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