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SpaceX was completely different and unproven. Now it launches 3 times per week. Once you do that, people with money tend to believe in your abilities.


Do you mean Q4? Q3 will probably have good numbers due to people rushing to take advantage of the EV credit.


Wouldn't that behavior already be reflected in these numbers?


Thing is, Tesla is not making much on each car they sell now, given how many discounts they need to offer. They were making a lot of money on regulatory credits, but these are likely to be gone already (in theory the companies should continue to buy them, but the Bill signed by Trump removes any penalties for not doing so effective immediately).

So yeah, sales may jump in the US (and will continue to crater in EU and China), but that won't do much for their profits. It can only help 'move the metal' as they say.



So never speak against brutal aggressors who commit war crimes? That seems to be antithetical to Christian values.


where did I say that? I am merely saying, that what WAS said might have higher chance of helping


OpenAI didn’t choose anything. This style simply happened to go viral. The model can do all sorts of stuff.


It will specifically stop you if you try and ask it for the style of Disney or marvel, while Sama specifically tweeted an example of Ghibli. There is very clearly a conscious choice around which companies IP they protect, and which they're happy to exploit (eg, not US companies).

Like the "Her" tweet, I suspect this is another moment of Sama being bloody thoughtless and may very well come and bit him in the ass when he inevitably tries to deny this in the future.

EDIT: Okay, really weirdly, I tried this when this first came out and definitely seemed to hit a content policy block. and now it works.


I just asked it "Make an image of a karate fighter in the style of a disney animation" and it did it in distinct Disney style. What it produced did not look like public domain steamboat willy or anything either, more 60s era Disney.

Where are you getting this? It may have been after they reduced refusals recently and it wouldn't do it before?

Disney is also the Ghibli distributor in the US aren't they?


They are no longer but your main point stands. The guy you’re responding to is making up fake news


Strangely, if you're going to mess with IP in any country, Japan is one of the ones that you should not. Japanese law is infamously brutal about copyright and has no concept of fair use, so you can get smacked very easily by it.

I guess they don't have assets in Japan to risk and therefore don't care.


> I guess they don't have assets in Japan to risk and therefore don't care.

That's the benefit of being a corporation that keeps its physical presence in its home country, especially in the internet age. Perhaps the US gov could sponsor Starlink as a way to break local ISP bans…


Incorrect. I just asked ChatGPT to show an image in the style of Disney/Pixar, and another in the style of a Marvel superhero. Both worked without complaint.

I would share the conversation but it's not generating a link ("Sharing conversations with user uploaded images is not yet supported.")


why would a us company care about Japanese copyright?


What logically follows is that non-us companies should also ignore US copyright


Good. Abolish it all.


Ghibli films have been localized for and released in America.


By.. Disney


Right. How are the administration’s relations with Disney right now?

That’s where we are. The laws doesn’t protect the proscribed.


Was just pointing that out since OP was saying it would refuse on Disney styles, though Disney doesn't have the copyright to Ghibli they still have US interests in the IP. But what he was saying doesn't seem to be true, it will do disney style drawings like it will do Ghibli.

(edit: from another reply it sounds like Disney is no longer the Ghibli distributor though, I guess that's why they are on HBO Max and not Disney+

Styles aren't copyrighted anyway, Steven Spielberg has produced Disney-style animated movies outside of Disney, and Disney has taken styles from others)


Yes.


You seem like the kind of person that would complain about “fake news”. You are literally generating fake news right now… a conspiracy theory even.

You are seeing what you want to see because of your personal idea of who Sam Altman is.

I literally just asked 4o to “create an image of a barista in the Disney animation style” and it did it without any issues.


To back up the poster, Open AI loosened their rules. Earlier this week I did “dark wing duck as a knight” and it generated half and then said it couldn’t due to copyright. The same prompt now returns the image. Assume good faith instead of flying off and accusing people of being blind acolytes based on your personal idea of who they are.


My guy Dark Wing Duck is IP. Ask the same of Pikachu or Mario.

The Disney or Ghibli or Capcom style is not. This is elementary stuff


This is an interesting point because it shows top-level control of output - by allowing one type of infringement rather than all types of infringement, it’s a human based decision. It’s only a matter of time before AI crosses into trademark domain issues and that’s where the big money lawyers will likely step in. As in, it harms the mark and it can be financially damaging unless stopped - and these systems clearly can be stopped from certain outputs.


Don't immediately believe what you read on Hacker News, certainly not to the point where you'd jump to such a significant conclusion over it.

ChatGPT is simply inconsistent about enforcing rules. Sometimes you ask it to generate an image and it says no, and then you ask it again in a slightly different way and it happily does it for you. One time I asked it to generate an image for me and it told me "I can't generate an image of Elon Musk but I can generate an image of someone who looks like Elon Musk. Let me know if you'd like me to do that instead", and the generated image looked exactly like Elon Musk.


>Sam Altman Promotes 4o Using Ghibli-Style Images

From: https://www.mindprison.cc/p/studio-ghibli-style-ai-art-crisi...

He could've chosen anything else.


That article links to a tweet by a guy who is not sam altman starting the trend. It was already viral by the time sam did it.


True, but OpenAI did leverage it for all that could be gained. There was no hesitation on their part to consider if it was ethical.


He only cares about money. Perhaps he now likes to be an edgelord as well, created in the image of the modern Mammon, Musk.


He chose the Ghibli style because it's such a big meme right now. Clearly.


Every gain is intentional; every cost is an accident.


It will come from others. 50 Billion is a deal made with the Saudis. Another 20 from a Canadian fund.


xAI is a separate company from X/Twitter, founded by Musk. xAI licenses data from X/Twitter for training. It’s not clear the exact financial deals between the two companies.


The “think of the children” type of excuses is always helpful. Strange to use a terrorism excuse though since there is already negative sentiment about “too many AirBnB apartments in our city”


True dat. Altho they also have to counteract any pro-AirBnB (landlord) lobby.


Andreessen is “borderline insane” now?


It’s not possible to release two versions at the same time without unnecessarily delaying the AI4 version.


Isn't it? Then when will v13 be released for HW3 cars?

Or is the more straightforward answer that HW3 will never see v13? Or if HW3 does see a v13 it will be a gimped version of HW4's v13.


All statements from Tesla engineers on Twitter is that they continue to work on both HW3 and HW4 for v13. Just because HW3 has smaller power it doesn’t mean that there is no future for it. A smaller model could still work it with good performance. We have similar advances from other AI companies where a newer model works better on less hardware


Ah, so the future of FSD is the same as its past. It will continue to run on lies.


Some context: This article is a month old, v13 has started shipping to customers yesterday.


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