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AI and space based economy

Let me rip my bong real quick..

What if you had a fleet of Optimus robots up there who would actually operate a TSMC in space and they would maintain the data centers in space?

Hold on let me enter a K hole…

What if we just did things?


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Yeah but he’s an expert his opinion can be dismissed bro this is 2026

We will have cyber taxis and FSD 100% next year.

They'll just be decommissioned and burn up in space. nVidia will make space-grade GPUs on a 2-3 year cycle.

You do realize that “space-grade” involves process changes that intrinsically incur orders of magnitude efficiency losses? Larger process sizes, worse performing materials. It’s not just a design thing you can throw money at.

Pre-requisites:

Ketamine


They don't need to be space grade, consumer hardware will do just fine.

For AI a random bit flip doesn't matter much.


Only if that bitflip happens somewhere in your actual data, vs. some GPU pipeline register that then locks up the entire system until a power cycle. Or causes a wrong address to be fetched. Or causes other nasty silent errors. Or...

Try doing fault injection on a chip some time. You'll see it's significantly easier to cause a crash / reset / hang than to just flip data bits.

'rad-triggered bit flips don't matter with AI' is a lie spoken by people who have obviously never done any digital design in their life.


As long as they stay below Van Allen belts and deal with weaker magnetic shielding in sun synchronous orbit (high latitudes).

I would say they probably something a little beefier than consumer hardware and just deal with lots of failures and bit flips.

But cooling is a bigger issue probably?


Random bit flips might even improve output.

Single upset events in a modern GPU are not bitflips. They destroy the surrounding circuitry and usually disable the whole unit.

If that happens you disable that CUDA core. If you GPU is too damaged, you deorbit the satellite.

Yeas, and this will happen within weeks of launch with the orbits under consideration.

"Let's check that we can do X, Y, Z"

"Create documentation and then write tests"

a few moments later...

"There's a bug where we cannot do Y. Investigate the code and then let's discuss the best fix"

"Update the documentation and tests"


nvidia should buy OpenAI. I like Jensen.

That's Sam Altman's wet dream: to get out of this with lots of cash and headache-free when the bubble bursts.

I actually think Sam is “better” than say Elon or Dario because he seems like a typical SF/SV tech bro. You probably know the type (not talking about some 600k TC fang worker, I mean entrepreneurs).

He says a lot of fluff, doesn’t try to be very extreme, and focuses on selling. I don’t know him personally but he comes across like an average person if that makes sense (in this environment that is).

I think I personally prefer that over Elon’s self induced mental illnesses and Dario being a doomer promoting the “end” of (insert a profession here) in 12 months every 6 months. It’s hard for me to trust a megalomaniac or a total nerd. So Sam is kinda in the middle there.

I hope OpenAI continues to dominate even if the margins of winning tighten.


Elon is one of the most unlikable people on the planet, so I wouldn't consider him much of a bar.

It’s kind of sad. I can’t believe I used to like him back in the iron man days. Back then I thought he was cool for the various ideas and projects he was working on. I still think many of those are great but he as a person let me down.

Now I have him muted on X.


Back then he had a PR firm working for him, getting him cameos and good press. But in 2020 he fired them deciding that his own "radically awesome" personality doesn't need any filtering.

Personally I don't think Elon is the worst billionaire, he's just the one dumb enough to not have any PR (since 2020). They're all pretty reprehensible creatures.


Any number of past mega-rich were probably equally nuts and out of touch and reprehensible but they just didn't let people find out. Then Twitter enabled an unfiltered mass-media broadcast of anyone's personal insanity, and certain public figures got addicted and exposed.

There will always be enough people willing to suck up to money that they'll have all the yes-men they need to rationalize it as "it's EVERYONE ELSE who's wrong!"


The watershed moment for me was when he pretended to be a top tier gamer on Path of Exile. Anyone in the know saw right through it, and honestly makes me wonder if we just spotted this behavior because it's "our turf", but actually he and people like him just operate this way in absolutely everything they do

Yeah, Putin is probably the worst billionaire. Elon might be a close second though, or maybe it's a US politician if they actually are a billionaire.

Peter Thiel who thinks the Pope or Greta Thunberg might be the antichrist, and that freedom is incompatible with democracy

https://www.nationalmemo.com/peter-thiel-antichrist


I think you did not understand his argument. He said it is a great danger that people might unite behind an antichrist like figure.

Exactly, other billionaires having calmer personality types does not make them less nuts.

> Now I have him muted on X.

Props to him for letting people mute him on his own platform. The issue with Sam and OpenAI is they their bias on any controversional topic can't be switched off.


But you're still on Twitter and calling it X...

So? I bet you think you're clever. You're using platforms daily that are ran by insane people. Don't forget that the internet itself was a military invention.

Hah, you beat me to it, serves me right for writing longer comments. Have an upvote ;)

Not extreme? Have you seen his interviews? I guess his wording and delivery are not extreme, but if you really listen to what he's saying, it's kinda nuts.

That Dyson sphere interview should've been a wake up call for the OpenAI faithful.

I understand what GP is saying in the sense that, yes, on an objective scale, what Sam is saying is absolutely and completely nuts... but on a relative scale he's just hyping his startup. Relative to the scale he's at, it’s no worse than the average support tool startup founder claiming they will defeat Salesforce, for example.

Exactly. Thanks for getting it, it is refreshing to encounter people who get it. Good luck with everything!

You too!

He's definitely not. If Altman. Is a "typical" SF/SV tech bro then that's an indication the valley has turned full d-bag. Altman's past is gross. So, if he's the norm then I will vehemently avoid any dollars of mine going to OAI. I paid for an account for a while, but just like Musk I lose nothing over actively avoiding his Ponzi scheme of a company.

Altman is a consummate liar and manipulator with no moral scruples. I think this LLM business is ethically compromised from the start, but Dario is easily the least worst of the three.

Darío unsettles me the most, he kinda reminds me of SBF, I wouldn’t be surprised if, well they’re all bad its to stack rank them.

I don't think he's good, but afaik he isn't trying to make everyone psychologically dependent on Claude and releasing sex bots.

He and SBF are both big into effective altruism, and SBF gave Anthropic their seed funding, so yeah, that checks out.

There's nothing wrong with effective altruism -- making money to give it away -- it's SBF.

Of course there is. The whole thing is a cult, designed to pull in suckers.

Your argument is guilt by association. Association with something that isn't morally wrong, it's just a way to try to spend money on charity in an effective way? You can take a lot of ideas too far and end up with a bad result of course.

There’s 4 though, where does Demis fit in the stack rank?

TBH, I hadn't heard of him until now. Looks like he's had a crazy legit professional career. I'd put him at the top for his work at Bullfrog alone.

Demis is the reason Google is afloat with a good shot at winning the whole race. The issue currently is he isn’t willing to become the alphabet CEO. IMHO he’ll need to for the final legs.

I’d hate the job too. It would be interesting to see how Google might evolve with him at the helm, for sure.

Pfft. Dario has been making nonsense fear mongering that never comes true.

> I actually think Sam is “better” than say Elon or even Dario because he seems like a typical SF/SV tech bro.

If you nail the bar to the floor, then sure, you can pass over it.

> He says a lot of fluff, doesn’t try to be very extreme, and focuses on selling.

I don't now what your definition of extreme is but by mine he's pretty extreme.

> I think I personally prefer that over Elon’s self induced mental illnesses and Dario being a doomer promoting the “end” of (insert a profession here) in 12 months every 6 months.

All of them suffer from thinking their money makes them somehow better.

> I hope OpenAI continues to dominate even if the margins of winning tighten.

I couldn't care less. I'm on the whole impressed with AI, less than happy about all of the slop and the societal problems it brings and wished it had been a more robust world that this had been brought in to because I'm not convinced the current one needed another issue of that magnitude to deal with.


> All of them suffer from thinking their money makes them somehow better.

Let's assume they think they're better than others.

What makes you think that they think it's because of their money, as opposed to, say, because of their success at growing their products and businesses to the top of their field?


Even if it's success rather than money, you still have survivorship bias to contend with, so it's not really much of a helpful distinction.

Because they wouldn't talk about money as much or try to convert a non-profit into a for profit company.

Do they talk about money that much? 99.99% of the people I see talking about money (especially other people's money and what they should be doing with it) are non-billionaires.

That’s ok, but AI is useful in particular use cases for many people. I use it a lot and I prefer the Codex 5.2 extra high reasoning model. The AI slop and dumb shit on IG/YT is like the LCD of humans though. They’ve always been there and always will be there to be annoying af. Before AI slop we had brain rot made by humans.

I think over time it (LLM based) will become like an augmenter, not something like what they’re selling as some doomsday thing. It can help people be more efficient at their jobs by quickly learning something new or helping do some tasks.

I find it makes me a lot more productive because I can have it follow my architecture and other docs to pump out changes across 10 files that I can then review. In the old way, it would have taken me quite a while longer to just draft those 10 files (I work on a fairly complex system), and I had some crazy code gen scripts and shit I’d built over the years. So I’d say it gives me about 50% more efficiency which I think is good.

Of course, everyone’s mileage may vary. Kinda reminds me of when everyone was shitting on GUIs, or scripting languages or opinionated frameworks. Except over time those things made productivity increase and led to a lot more solutions. We can nitpick but I think the broader positive implication remains.


some people are so determined to be positive about AI that at some point it just comes across like they’re getting paid to be

There are quite a lot of posts like that. Just a bit too eager. Proselytising as if AI is a religion.

Mods tolerate it for some reason I suppose.

I don't think I did that at all, and I call out that sort of bullshit all the time and get downvoted lol (idgaf :P)

Maybe some/many even are? For "AI" companies it's not really a big expense in comparison and they depend hugely on keeping the hype going.

It's very hard to see downsides on something like GUIS, scripting languages or opinionated frameworks compared to a broad, easily weaponized tool like generative AI.

Everything is ultimately an organizational challenge. Even something like Linux which is cool and Linus is a beast, but what is most impressive is how thousands of people can contribute to it. And there are so many flavors.

Knowing how to program has always been the lowest bar. And nobody cares about what programming languages you know because with experience and especially with AI, anyone decently good can pick up a new language or tool in days, if not hours.


You should just bootstrap if you're so confident. Honestly I'm not sure this idea is that great, but hey I am happy to be wrong. It is all right though.

FWIW I'm also not the type of person who would get VC backing (not an Ivy grad, not some hot shot Kumon kid who also got a Olympics gold medal while doing heart surgery when I was 15, etc.), but I managed to save up 500k working in tech for 10 years. You can do a lot with 200k. You can do plenty with 500k.

Once you have traction, you can either take out a calculated loan or just grow organically if you're not able to get VC money. And with VC money comes a lot of obligations, so you may have to compromise and end up losing big in the end if things don't work out.

Honestly, people should just work in tech for like 5-10 years and get like 1M+ retirement fund and maybe 200-500k cash they can use for their business.

The best thing you could do in 2026 is to build your dream solo, and actually prove to VCs that it is possible for a single person to build a $1B business. And by prove, I mean that you would never need their money because you actually build something meaningful that solves problems for real people. Life is better when you mute all these FOMO-mongers and focus.

Ignore the noise, and don't hold grudges. Just be 100% selfish and feel zero remorse. You get one shot at life, so give it your best.

I live in a studio apartment and I'm earning 4% on my savings, 15% on my retirement, 170% on my meme stock portfolio, and 15-25% on my tech max stocks. Basically if you want to do something crazy, you have to take a risk and not give a fuck about other people and what they're doing. Optimize ONLY for YOURSELF.

Care only for the customer. Ignore everyone else, who gives a fuck. They can figure it out for themselves, not your problem.


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