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We made a similar arrangement a year ago, and it didn't cause any significant issues. We chose to be transparent about it, and every employee was allowed to sell the same percentage of their shares (as long as they're vested) as the founders. Most chose not to sell.

People should understand that building a successful independent company is easier when the founders don't have to worry about their financials.


Smartly.io | Software Engineer | JavaScript, React, Redux, Ruby, Kotlin, PostgreSQL, Cassandra | Helsinki, Finland ONSITE VISA | Full-time

Smartly.io is a product for large-scale Facebook marketing automation and optimisation. We’re a profitable and fast-growing startup, with 150+ employees and counting. Companies like eBay and Skyscanner use our products to grow their business.

We deploy to 400+ servers 10-20 times per day, processing petabytes of data every month. In frontend we do React+Redux+Flow, and in the backend services are mostly written in Ruby, Node.js and Kotlin.

More information at http://www.smartly.io/developer


StackOverflow Jobs site is used quite a bit at least in Europe. https://stackoverflow.com/jobs

It's relatively easy to Google for expat websites for any specific country. The salaries are generally lower, but so is the cost of housing.

Our company Smartly.io is also hiring. 3-year-old startup, 100 employees, 30+ engineers, profitable, some real scalability issues to be solved (already 200+ servers), and based in Helsinki. :)


Flowdock also supports multiple organizations in one client.


It's true (and great!), but you can't see two conversations from two different organizations at the same time - have to click.


Flowdock has pretty much the same functionality, and supports multiple organizations with one login. https://www.flowdock.com/



Thanks for the feedback, we'll be adding more of them, and blogging about individual features.

We actually have a Campfire importer in case you want to retain your chat history.


Thanks for reading the feedback :) Love that there is a campfire importer that we can import our chat history with!


We're giving this a demo in the office today. Really loving the ease of integrating things like Jira / Github.


Thanks for the post! We've been working on this new release for a while, hoping to get lots of feedback from HN.


The local university here in Finland has in interesting partnership with Microsoft. They offer you some money if you develop your app exclusively for Windows Phone for the first 6 months or so. Seems quite harmful for the startups...


Most of these concepts are already implemented in Flowdock: https://www.flowdock.com/


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