HN promoted Tailscale worth of million dollars of advertising so far for free. This is really disgusting and the biggest proof that relations >>> product.
When every Wireguard post gets immediately hijacked to become a promotion for this company, when at least 2 threads get to the HN frontpage each week then something is totally very fishy. I understand they are popular and have strong connections with many powerful people here. But at least this systematic promotion should be mentioned as promotion and not some innocent thread because it's totally organized and intentional.
Are you sure you are talking about Kind and not minikube for instance? for me Kind is the most efficient way of running a real cluster on my machine, a bare cluster merely takes 600MB for RAM in my case and the creation takes too long only in the first time because it downloads the docker images.
> I typically don't shill around here, but why isn't ZeroTier on that list? I suppose we don't have a giant marketing budget (yet).
now you know, nothing here is just coincidental, not even the timing the posts are submitted or the type of comments that get quickly upvoted or buried to derail the discussion in a certain direction or even the links injected in comments of popular threads to improve the SEO of some companies and projects. Every, again EVERY, WireGuard post over the past 2 months has instantly converted into a shilling party for this company that literally has no product to offer, its source-code is pre-alpha state yet the party is persistent for every thread, it seems that the owners have really powerful friends all over the place and that's why they're having free ride despite having no product. This recipe for having a popular startup name with no actual product has really worked very well in the easy times of 2014-2020. Let's see how things work out this time
$10k a month is a 'sustainable full-time job' for a senior developer once you factor in health insurance and the additional 7.65% self-employment tax.
I prefer this model for opensource software. We get an awesome product and he gets enough money to sustain himself while maintaining it. Seems like a fair deal for all.
That's quite a bit less than someone with his skillset could earn in the US. He could easily earn 2-3x that amount in Silicon Valley, and possibly quite a bit more.
Ok I didn't know that. I heard IT wages in the US were good but I didn't think they were that good. Here in Spain you're doing well with $2200 and that's a senior position at a big multinational.
This is more or less what a senior Frontend dev usually makes in the US. The author single handedly made the first serious FOSS VPN that can replace IPSec and OpenVPN
I am sick of people shilling to this thing here. Stop exploiting HN for free advertising. Every Wireguard post here has become a free ad for this company.
EDIT: Stop supporting parasites repackaging and rebranding open source and selling it while leaving the author who single handedly made this entire thing possible begging for donations on Patreon
You've been breaking the site guidelines repeatedly, both in this thread and unfortunately in others (and we've had to ask you about this before). We ban accounts that do that. Would you mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and sticking to the rules when posting here? The intended spirit is curious conversation.
Again, please do your job and delete astroturfing comments and ban these users. This company has been exploiting HN for so long to promote itself whenever a post about Wireguard go to the frontpage. They don't even have a ready product. This website encourages really sneaky types of marketing if you don't take action.
I appreciate your concern for the integrity of this site, but if you really care about that you should follow its rules, which say clearly what to do with these insinuations, and it isn't posting them here.
I haven't seen any evidence of astroturfing in this case. The user you were accusing above seems entirely legit.
You've posted such accusations to HN several times before. Given how little data we have about each other online, it's easy to connect the dots in a way that jumps to nefarious conclusions about others. If you come here and post those, the odds get pretty high that you're accusing innocent people of bad things. That's not cool, which is one reason the site guidelines ask everyone not to do that. We'd be grateful if you'd stop doing that.
I will stop doing that. But HN should give the priority to FOSS projects and commercial projects made by single developers and small companies that have no money or other way of reaching out to users instead of helping big companies and startups made by millionaires. As of Wireguard case, if you've been following all popular threads about it throughout the last 2 months you will know what I am talking about.
Jason comments here all the time and is quite easy to talk to, and I think we're all better off hearing from real Jason, not some imaginary angry Jason you've invented. Not least because there are actual abuses in the WireGuard ecosystem, and your imaginary Jason is obscuring them behind fake abuses.
I didn't say he is angry, my main point was not advertise for free for a company that is built off the work of a single man, especially when it's FOSS, especially when it's a technically piece of genius like WireGuard, while not supporting the man himself. There are known ways for companies to market their paid product, it's called ads.
You realise most VPN providers offer OpenVPN (for years) and now Wireguard support right? Some bundle the software & drivers on their own GUI. I'm happily using a paid OpenVPN client for mac (won't name it here to avoid upsetting you further) for years.
What I'm trying to say is that tailscale is doing nothing new or sinister.
Actually, I haven't heard of them and they look like a pretty nice way of connecting different resources over the internet. I am not sure what you mean by parasites. I am glad they posted the link in this thread. Wireguard is an opensource project, Tailscale is a paid service. Do you think they compete with each other or you think that people should not share product recommendations at all on HN?
One could just as easily make the opposite complaint that WireGuard is receiving undeserved hype because it is just a tunneling protocol without a control plane.
Golang is such a joke of a language. The compiler won't even compile if there is an unused variable but won't warn you if there is an unchecked error! This language is meant to produce buggy incorrect code that can only be mitigated with writing excessive repetitive tests that have nothing to do with business logic itself.
Golang is probably the biggest embarrassment of a modern programming language ever conceived. Again, if you don't believe me, just start writing your first Kubernetes controller.
This doesn't match my experience. Go apps tend to be extremely clean and reliable. It's of course possible to write crap code in Go, but you can write crap code in any language.
The unused variable thing is mildly annoying but fits with the cleanliness philosophy. Not checking errors is very easily detected by a LINTer such as the one built into the JetBrains GoLand IDE. It highlights failure to check errors and requires that you explicitly ignore the error return with something like "_, foo = bar.baz()".
Go is spectacularly productive when used properly. It's a very nice language.
Rename this website to Tailscale News.