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You will not. Welcome to the scary generative future.


I was hoping for a "yes, we can" attitude here. :D


The GDPR could make or break this. Here's hoping for the former..


I don't see how GDPR would break this. It would be compatible with what that hopes to acomplish. This is a technology solution which helps you to enforce GDPR redactions.


"Former" means the first thing, which was "make". He's saying he hopes GDPR helps adoption.


    i. I swear to fulfill, to the best of my knowledge, this premise:
    ii. I swear that I will respect the hard-won technical foundation of those engineers in whose steps I tread,
    iii. And gladly share knowledge as is mine with those who are to follow.
    iv. I will apply, for the benefit of the users, all measures that are required, avoiding those shortcuts that improve my performance or my employees’ at the users’ cost.
    v. I will remember that there is art to engineering, and that experience, design, and empathy may outweigh performance, cost, or time to deliver.
    vi. I will not be ashamed to say ‘I know not’, nor will I fail to call in my fellow engineers when the skills of another are required for the task at hand.
    vii. I will respect the privacy of the users, for their data is not disclosed to me for the world to know.
    viii. I will respect the competence of the users, for their decisions are not handed to me for the artificial intelligence to take over.
    ix. Most especially I must tread carefully in matters of life and death.
    x. I will remember that I do not write a story, build a machine, or run a system, but handle the digital concerns of the user as a fellow human being.
    xi. My responsibility includes the economic and personal safety, as well as the freedoms ensured to the user by his constitutional rights.
    xii. I will remember to remain a member of society, with special obligations to my fellow human beings, as my actions affect not one but many at once.
    xiii. Those matters include care for the mind and body, as well as the disabled.
    xiv. If I do not violate this oath, may I enjoy life and art, respected while I live and remembered well thereafter.
    xv. May I always act so as to preserve the finest traditions of my calling and my I long experience the joy of engineering technology that helps.


Makes sense, enhance a dog's vision and he got scent and vision to see through the world into the abyss.


Too much nitpicking here for an unprecedented leap forward in infosec.

Github giving away yet another enterprise class property away for free.

The future of security is very dire and available means like this are essential to protect democracy and freedom.

A lot of those noisy repos do actually run cog wheels of critical infrastructure.

All praise our source code OVERLORD.


It’s most certainly precedented as Semmle offered this before getting bought by GitHub and turned off. And, of course, GitLab has had this for years.


Oh so they're finally preparing for the Linux switch. Good guy Satya


I have a feeling that Windows Nano Server w/ Powershell + .NET Core might make this text relevant again soon. Having a consistent OS that scales from containers to servers and desktop is a big benefit in corporate. Now if it matched performance of an Alpine, played well with WSL, and Microsoft would manage to push the major open source stuff for compatibility. I'd give Linux 5 years. But only time will tell..


I really, really hope that you're wrong.

I optimistically hope a not-too-future (within 10y?) major version update of Windows is in reality a *nix distribution. As long as they can keep runtime compatibility with older versions of Windows software, I think it'd be a big win for Microsoft for various reasons.

The only real challenge would be to get driver vendors in line.


I don't think either is likely. Linux is embedded into the cloud space and the embedded space.

People have been down the Windows CE and Windows RT rabbit holes before. Windows Nano does nothing there.

In the server space, it's a possibility, but why? Other than running MS specific software, what is the benefit?

On the other hand, even with WSL2, Linux is not going to have it's mythologized "year of the desktop", unless you count Chromebooks. So Windows will maintain its niche there.


Why would you want that? That is the last thing I want.

It is like saying that in ten years we will only have Pepsi Cola. As the only soft drink. You can get Pepsi Cola Mint ,Pepsi Cola Cherry, Pepsi Cola regular etc.

But no matter what it will always be Pepsi Cola.

I want more, a lot more viable operating systems than we have ow. Now is a sad place to be.

Linux was never created to be a modern operating system.

Parts in Windows NT -> were derived from VMS, though more and more of it removed. Some parts were removed and had to be reinvented (WSL).

Bacm in the days, you could pick different hardware you could pick different oses (often tied to specific hardware).

I liked Atari ST TOS/GEM. I thought it was way ahead of its time.

I did not think that PCs in the beginning of the Atari STs were even comparable. Lots of peple loved the Amiga, great machine. Some people had the Archimdes. (ARM). You had Macs with PowerPC. Lots of choice and lots of competition.

Now you buy a computer of a specific design with little direct competition, though that is improving now.

And you can pick between Linux or Windows.

A single computer architecture. A singe choice +1 for operating systems.

I would really want to own a POWER powered Linux machine but the are tragically expensive.For the most part they do share the same architecture still.

On mobile, we have Android or iOS. Android has a lot of shared architecture for obvious reasons and iOS most certainly does.

It is like the American election, which white geriatric misogynists would you like?

Linux is fully geriatric. WindowsNT is getting there too.

Can we please have a couple of teenage operating systems? Some new viable babies?


Some that you forget: BSD (Net, Open, Free, Dragon), macOS, OpenVMS, Haiku.

And hey, I’m sure if you work on implementing one maybe others will be interested in writing software for it. And that’s kind of the point, I guess: it’s a huge undertaking with little financial value for a business as opposed to extending on existing work. Standards give us a common language.


Haiku, maybe?


> I optimistically hope a not-too-future (within 10y?) major version update of Windows is in reality a *nix distribution.

I very much hope you are wrong, as this will signal the death of personal computing.


Why so? Imagine the WSL will eventually molding into an LSW. The end-user experience needn't be affected apart from the more technical power-users.


Because frankly I think the Linux Desktop as it exists is incompatible with a good personal computing platform. I have rambled on at quite some length about this elsewhere on HN. Were Windows to become just another cobbled-together leaky abstraction of a desktop on top of Linux, it would suffer from all of the same problems.


How much have you worked directly with the WinAPIs? Because oh lord.

I imagine it'd be more holistic and maybe not so similar to current desktop distros. No X11 for sure, but not sure if it'd even be wayland.

May not even be Linux - BSD seems more likely of the two, especially considering licenses. Remember that Apple did the same transition with OS X (which has roots in BSD).


> How much have you worked directly with the WinAPIs? Because oh lord.

What does that have to do with anything? Yeah, they're often anachronistic, but that's to be expected of something with over 2 decades of ABI compatibility.

> No X11 for sure, but not sure if it'd even be wayland.

WDDM and DWM have supported features for over a decade that Wayland still doesn't support.


I was thinking Nuclear would be the stable baseline for renewable. But this is not a sustainable option. We need to enforce hydrogen.

Do not submit to the fallacy of nuclear waste disposal. First Elon needs to fix space travel and make transport into the sun feasible. And we will have iter by then.


Hydrogen is not a good (at the moment at least) source of energy or fuel for cars or industry (chemically speaking, obviously much better together with Deuterium and Tritium for fission, though we are still from such a technology). Steam reforming, which is currently the most common way of hydrogen production, uses natural gas and water and produces plenty of CO2 [1]. Nice summary as for cars fuel application here [2].

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_production

[2] https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f7MzFfuNOtY


Hydrogen is an answer to the question "how do renewables serve 100% of the grid?". It enables renewables to cover that last 10% or so, and rare prolonged dark/calm periods, without excessive amounts of overcapacity or batteries.


Hydrogen can be a practical fuel, but you need energy to extract it, which could very well be nuclear


Or solar. Or wind. Or tidal. The beauty of hydrogen is its a great way of time-shifting intermittent energy on a large scale (assuming a large enough water supply) for later use. I’m talking primarily about electricity generation as opposed to fuel for vehicles.


ITER is not a power plant, but if one could turn its gross fusion output to electrical power at 40% efficiency it would cost $100/W (vs. $10/W for fission and $1/W for solar). Not sure why you think this will be something worth waiting for.


Why would you need to put it in the sun? That would be a huge waste of energy, just stick it in a stable graveyard orbit, or just get it fast enough to escape Earth's gravity


I would deeply appreciate feedback from all the great thinkers and realizers on Hacker News! I am more of a dreamer and intuitionist..


What happened to the glider hacker emblem? A pity it never took off..


It didn’t go anywhere, here it is: https://www.catb.org/hacker-emblem/

I always thought that it was a symbol with unfortunate connotations of time-wasting. If you want to market youself with a symbol of something which is ultimately a useless distraction, this is not a attractive branding.


In what ways are conways-game-of-life or the glider-pattern associated with time-wasting?


The Game of Life is a fun toy, but ultimately unproductive. It does not inherently lead to anything else either; the entire field is a dead end (no matter what Stephen Wolfram says). And, what’s worse, people more or less knew this at the time, and still they let most of the best minds of a generation, as it were, be absorbed into doing nothing but the equivalent of mental navel-gazing.


Thanks, it's interesting you see it that way - but I've never seen that view common among 'hackers'.

So, I doubt that's the factor why the symbol hasn't been more widely-used, emblematically. I instead suspect mixed-feelings about anything ESR proposes, or just more generally the fact that hackers are so varied in interests/behavior that there's little need for a shared emblem. (Though, the glider appeals to a certain mindset, who have & will use it as a symbol, as when it appeared in many remembrances after John Conway's passing.)


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