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Depending on where in the EU you are, it's already off.


Here's an IC used in some alarm clocks that uses the power grid's frequency, along with a list of products that use it: https://www.radiomuseum.org/tubes/tube_lm8560.html


We do revive the (recently) dead using electricity.


Out of curiosity, what's your source for that?


You're not European I take it? Even in places like Italy and such, you can get like €30Κ per year and be happy about it. In most of E.U. it's even less.


I am European. I'm not doubting the number the op stated regarding Berlin, I was just curious where other people look up salary information.


Hah, OK. Thought it maybe was a typical "you make so little?" sneering response Europeans often get from US developers in forums such as HN.

Which for some places in Europe it might be a good comparison, but for others making €40K a year might get you a far quality of life than what you get in the Bay area or the US in general for $100K (e.g. larger house, better savings, insurance, 4 weeks paid vacation, decent working hours, etc).


well even glassdoor is accurate (it is on the high average tho) for europe at least in software jobs.


me being an european and having worked in berlin, paris, london and as such knowing the market. I'm talking about avg salary


I get your point but I think a lot of people overestimate the amount of special gear they need to pursue certain activities. Sure, if you're going to be in the wilderness for days, hiking boots and outdoor clothing are a good idea. A few hours walking through the forest, you're fine wearing whatever.


And then the weather turns and you are in deep dodo.

I wonder how many times i have read a news report about some tourist that needed to be rescued because he or she tried to visit some view or other in shorts and loafers.





I don't know a Github competitor, but Fossil is a DVCS that also stores issue and a wiki in the repository.


Fossil is written by Richard Hipp, the same guy who wrote Sqlite...


Unfortunately I installed Hangout on my phone this morning and basically destroyed most of the utility GTalk had. None of my Google Talk contacts can send messages to my mobile, I can't see them in my contact list (not even people with Google accounts that don't use G+) and for the remaining ones with G+ accounts there's no presence information I can recognize.


I have two google apps for domains accounts, on personal and one for work, and since the hangouts app shows your contacts, and the contacts are not strictly bound to a g-account on the phone when browsing, the contacts lists and circles are all mixed up. I'm paranoid about chatting with someone at work via my personal account and then polluting their seen-people history contact list with my personal account. This was much easier to keep separate with the gtalk app.

I may need two phones to keep this stuff separate properly.


The one thing that really annoyed me is that all my AIM contacts disappeared. Granted I only have 2 people with which I talk regularly, but one of them is pretty much my best friend, and luckily I have other venues of communication because if not I would have lost contact with him forever because Google hates me.


Yes, that pissed me off, too. The messenger is now basically the old G+ Messenger, and not Gtalk.

Also if they were going to do this, they should've done it across all Gtalk platforms at once, so nobody feels the "fragmentation" between the services. I heard it will begin being rolled out to Gmail soon, but still. It all should've happened in day one.


It's being rolled out to Gmail since day 1. You can't launch something like this to several 100 millions of users in an hour.


Exactly, in fact I haven't seen any ads since I installed AdBlock 6 years ago.


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