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I had a similar experience, signing up for the first time to give Gemini a test drive on my side project after a long time using ChatGPT. The latter has a native macOS client which "just works" integrating with Xcode buffers. I couldn't figure out how to integrate Gemini with Xcode quickly enough so I'm resorting to pasting back & forth from the browser. A few of the exchanges I've had "felt smarter" — but, on the whole, it feels like maybe it wasn't as well trained on Swift/SwiftUI as the OpenAI model. I haven't decided one way or another yet, but those are my initial impressions.


Once one does spend some time to become comfortable with the language, that feeling of messiness with unfamiliar syntax fades away. That's the case with any unfamiliar language, not just Rust.


I used Rust for a year and still wasn't used to the syntax, though this was v1.0 so idk what changed. I see why it's so complicated and would definitely prefer it over C or Cpp, but wouldn't do higher-level code in it.


Trying to figure out if this observation was intended to frame it so that it's less|same|more scary. The effect is more, but it sounds like the intention was less.


Could you explain how “no confirmed meeting” implies “they never met”?


You think he snuck out from secret service and had an off-the-book thanksgiving with a pedo?

I'm saying there's no direct evidence he did and on face value it's ridiculous.

He was meeting the troops and golfing with Tiger Woods and happened to be in the same state Epstein had a house in.

Have any evidence otherwise, or just conspiracy theories?


With any other administration I would have granted you that leap in logic, but we already learned, three years ago, from Stephanie Grisham that he held off the books meetings specifically to circumvent record keeping laws. So I think a slightly higher standard of evidence is needed before we dismiss the possibility that he met with the pedo who likely had dirt on him.


You have the standard of evidence reversed.

You need to prove what you're accusing him of, not the other way around.


Sounds like you’re assuming that standards for charges/trial should also be used as standards for inquiry/investigation. That is not the case.


By all means investigate away on the thanksgiving email, you will find nothing as nothing exists.

Choosing resources to investigate hearsay that is easily disproven is a waste of time though when you have actual evidence of direct correspondence.

Noone is falling for this crap anymore btw. The Trump smear stuff doesn't work as everyone cried wolf too many times.

Very telling you spend this much energy on a silly email talking about Trump vs people who actually talked and met with Epstein.


Are you Donald? How can you be certain that nothing exists?


> Epstein and pohl are down here in Florida

Wow that's damning pohl, prove you weren't with him.

Even if you provide detailed logs of your whereabouts, that won't be enough because I assume you're lying.

Hearsay is a bitch isn't it.


> News is not the place for bias

TBH, I think that journalists tying themselves into pretzels in an effort to remain unbiased does more damage than the presence of some bias. As a consumer of news, I want journalists to be biased, for example, towards the rule of law, the preservations of institutions, and checks & balances, and even norms.


Gives you popcorn lungs, but it is technically a replacement.


> Gives you popcorn lungs

This is a myth. You could be confusing the story of the factory workers who had popcorn lung, or you may be thinking of the bootleg marijuana carts which had vitamin E in the mix, in either case the story is wrong and also about a decade out of date.

Vapes do not cause popcorn lung.

https://www.nhs.uk/better-health/quit-smoking/ready-to-quit-...


Plastics are largely a petroleum product, right? That particular resource extraction industry pretty much has a lock on public policy.


Does it need to be the same thing, though, before we consider actions the Precautionary Principle might point toward?


The precautionary principle is bad epistemology and shouldn’t be used to argue in opposition to anything. If we’re considering actions to ban or reduce microplastics it should be backed by a reasoned explanation for why we should do so.


And where does it point toward? Other some untenable position such as "ban all plastics", which may very well produce more harm?

The discourse around microplastics is pretty wild. The sport is finding them in random places, often at parts-per-billion or parts-per-trillion levels that we don't really use to look for most other substances. And the implication is essentially "progress bad" or "consumerism bad". No clear evidence of human harm, no realistic policy prescriptions - so what do we expect to happen, exactly? This it not a case of corporate greed or deception.

Our bodies also contain a fair amount of sand. Probably at levels higher than parts-per-billion. Is it bad? Sometimes! Where does the precautionary principle lead us on that?


Make the plastic manufacturers own the external costs by requiring they fund proper disposal sites/messaging, if only to start making up for all the bullshit propaganda about recycling that's greatly exacerbated the problem.


While we're here, let's have them fund future treatment when we discover that illness has been caused by plastic.


> Make the plastic manufacturers own the external costs by requiring they fund proper disposal sites/messaging,

I think you fail to understand the reality of the problem.

In western countries, plastic "trash" is not really the problem. It's highly visible and it would always be nice to reduce it of course.

The majority of uncontained environmental microplastics comes from vehicle tires and clothing/textiles. Clothing and other textiles (e.g., carpets) being the biggest source, more than 1/3rd. After that it's probably building materials, paints, machinery and factory parts, etc.

Disposal sites and messaging will not do anything. You can be a perfectly compliant goodly consumer who dutifully puts their old clothes in the trash and pays the disposal fees for their old tires or rides busses. You'd still be contributing enormously to environmental microplastic load.

All natural fiber clothes, cycle everywhere, don't wear sneakers or other kind of plastic or synthetic rubber shoes, don't have synthetic carpets or drapes, don't paint your house, etc... now you're starting to get somewhere.

But the machinery required for you to stay alive, moving goods and services around, pumping your water, people going to work to keep your electricity on, package your food, etc... all still pumping out microplastics.

Disposal and messaging just won't cut it. And without a bunch of astounding and vanishingly unlikely breakthroughs, getting rid of microplastics from the top 4-5 sources will make net zero CO2 look like a walk in the park. Therefore we have to accept microplastics at enormous scale and work with that. Not to say we shouldn't attempt to reduce it where possible of course we should, but it won't be reduced to insignificant. So I think what needs to be done is well funded research into the effects of existing and new types of plastics, and into new materials and techniques for cleanup or containment. That way we have a chance to discover and limit or ban the worst of the worst before they can become too pervasive.

As far as reduction goes, possibly some small incentives to avoid plastics in consumer items (clothes, carpets, etc) might help. The messaging really can not be the same idiotic and counterproductive alarmism and blame and guilt campaigns led by wealthy private jet and mega yacht owning billionaires of the climate change debacle. Just gently make people aware they could look for natural fiber clothes, perhaps modest and commensurate added costs on plastics manufacturers to fund this research and containment, etc.


Another source of microplastics in the human body is from food that was microwaved in a plastic container.


Why stop there? It’s in meat, water, mother’s milk, and newborns are even born with microplastics already in them.


Why not start with the large sources that you can personally control?

> One 2023 study published in the journal Environmental Science & Technology found that microwaving plastic food containers releases more than 2 billion nanoplastics (smaller microplastics) and 4 million microplastics for every square centimeter of the container.

https://www.prevention.com/health/a65025549/can-you-microwav...


"Ban all plastics" is a strawman that will not happen and no mainstream opinion is suggesting. But there is a wide spectrum of possibilities between "ban all plastics" and "do nothing".

A principal concern is ingestion of microplastics via food packaging, utensils, cookware, etc. There are non-plastic substitutions available for many of these items, and a precautionary approach would be to regulate to require them, where it is economically feasible, until such time as the effects of microplastic ingestion are better understood.


Synthetic fibers are another. They're absolutely everywhere.


I don't think there's any more room for not considering underestimating the importance of beginning to start the process-of mulling over the conceptualisation of starting to worry.

And the time to do it is … very soon.


I intellectually resolve to avoid disagreement with the philosophies your output indicates.


Yeah, I know that Upset Plots are a better choice for data visualization — as everyone is pointing out — but take a moment to appreciate this beautiful etude for what it is. This nicely executed. I love how this forced the author into some very difficult choices about how to create a large set of convincingly "mixed" colors — which is a very difficult problem even with just 4 overlapping base colors!

In some sense, they "lucked out" by dealing with a prime number of primary color sets, which helped them avoid having multiple pairs of colors that are directly across the wheel from each other.

Very nicely done. It's fun to play with, and inspiring to study.


Ovals, arguably roundish, can do 4 sets well in 2D.


Right. I don't find that clear anymore. Seems more like a puzzle to me.

The 3D one works somewhat well if the spheres are translucent and animated.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venn_diagram#Extensions_to_hig...


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