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amazon would discontinue their account because the isp isn't providing value to them


I believe that they're already doing tooling for it at the manufacturing company where I intern. So don't make that bet with too many people


Foxconn intern?



I agree that it dipped briefly after the first season, but lately the show has had amazing maturity and depth. as well as being hilarious in a slightly less zany way.


relaxing while driving is probably closer to hyperfocus than rage is.


2000 hours/ 180 days = 11 hours a day? :( scary


the worse is people piling onto a middle square when it allows the other other team to go anywhere if the middle is already won


you can make decent flat bread with flour and water


And that's saving the lemon for dessert!


what terminology do you think is more appropriate for these high level "glue" languages?


I think the point is that you cannot group them like that.

Static typed languages vs dynamic type languages is a much better separation but even then it is grey.

The pejorative "scripting language" was a term that Sun pushed really hard a while ago to separate them from "real" languages (i.e. Java) that you would trust your company to.

[Edit] I may have mis-remembered and it it might have been Oracle rather than Sun trying to dismiss "scripting languages" as toy languages at the time.


> The pejorative "scripting language" was a term that Sun pushed really hard a while ago to separate them from "real" languages (i.e. Java) that you would trust your company to.

Fascinating. I do believe this without hesitation, but for the sake of sharing this in other social circles, is it the sort of claim that's possible to find a citation for?


As soon as I wrote it I have tried to find a source I can link to but my google-fu is failing me.

I will keep looking. It may have been Oracle rather than Sun.


Here's this from Oracle (I think), might be relevant:

http://www.java.com/en/download/faq/java_javascript.xml


I remember reading about it in an article where they got their hands on a "guideline document" for an expo (One of the big Java ones) for Sun/Oracle people.

In it it basically talked about the need for constant low-level differentiation and playing-down of scripting languages.

The link you posted above is the kind of thing this encouraged. Don't be actively hostile but more "Oh, a scripting language? How cute"


Sounds reasonable but a bit outdated. Then again who would've guessed that historical ubiquity of JS scripting language would eventually put it on server side?


I have no trouble believing that any (or even many) players abused and over-extended the distinction for their various ends, but it appears Ousterhout (author of Tcl) was using "scripting language" before Java came on the scene. In that case, it clearly wasn't intended pejoratively. I would like better sources than I've been able to find, though...


I phrased it badly. what I should have said was:

"scripting language" used in a pejorative sense was pushed by Sun/Oracle.


Fair enough.


They aren't glue languages to begin with. People are building substantial applications with these languages.


I (pessimistically) don't think that creators will ever be the majority. maybe in the future it will be easier for all who create things to incorporate custom software, but I don't think that the majority of the population will ever feel the need to create their own software, even if it's as easy as editing music with garageband or manipulating images with photoshop. I would love to be proven wrong within my lifetime though!


What do you mean by creators?

I know very few people who don't create something. Most people do so at their jobs, and those who don't usually have a hobby or two (sewing/knitting, hobby construction projects around the home, gourmet cooking, etc.)

Someone I think you're using the term to mean something else.


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