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They couldn’t coerce enough people to install the app.


In the people that use meat’s superior satiety to stay lean, you see lower inflammation, IGF-1, insulin … etc. On a purely meat diet with loads of protein, my IGF-1 was 90, a z-score of -1.


He tricked me into working for a month without a contract and then wouldn’t answer my calls when I asked him to sign the terms we agreed upon. I had to show up and sit on their couch until he showed up to write me a check to go away. He’s a slippery character.


I was also on that contract and can verify this. Here’s an odd wrinkle: just prior to that contract, Patrick wanted to purchase bitcoin from me (this was back in 2013) remotely, with me sending him the bitcoin first and him paying when he had time. He also wanted the terms to be that if the USD price of bitcoin went down before he paid me, that he would pay the lower price(!) and he would choose the time of repayment. I declined to do anything other than an in-person cash transaction. Later, I heard he had previously purchased some from another friend and then ghosted him for many (>6?) months despite persistent requests for payment.


Holy crap that sounds shady. Can you point to the transaction on chain?


There are hunter gatherers (hadza, ache, pygmies) that eat substantial amounts of honey without becoming overweight.


The health threat is not from being overweight. Obese people can be healthy.

The health threat from fructose is liver damage, and all the knock-on results of a sick liver, what they call Fatty Liver Disease, Metabolic Disorder, or lately Processed Food Disease. It differs little from the cirrhosis alcoholics get.


> Obese people can be healthy.

No, they truly cannot be, at least relative to the equivalent non-obese state. (I assume, of course, a sane definition for the term "obese").

I realize this has somehow (bizarrely) become a controversial issue in the US of late but the mountain of scientific evidence is incredibly clear on this point.


The majority of obese people have other health problems. But, not all. For many, another health problem caused the obesity; they would happily give up both, but do not get the choice. For some, eating little enough to actually lose weight would make them sick.

It is overwhelmingly worse to have metabolic disorder without obesity than to have obesity without metabolic disorder. Many, many non-obese Americans have metabolic disorder. A smaller number are obese without metabolic disorder.


The fact that different, sometimes worse, alternatives exist has no bearing on the factual accuracy of what I said. Obesity is without a doubt unhealthy relative to the equivalent non-obese state. It is a significant risk factor for, and in many cases a direct cause of, an astounding number of other disorders.


While there are plenty of illnesses that obesity can help bring on or worsen, not everybody who is obese suffers from any of them. In the absence of such an illness, an obese person may be as healthy and live as long as, any in their cohort.

As a matter of public health, attention is much better directed to metabolic syndrome and circulatory disease, which are more responsive to interventions. Obesity draws attention because it is easily visible, and because people have attached a moral stigma to it. Blinkered public policy has led to there being overwhelmingly more obese people than the natural rate; fix policy, and the rate would return to its normal level.


If you don't get it, it's in their names – they spend their time hunting and gathering, not sitting around watching TV or on a computer. The extra nutrient absorption may benefit them in that case, as opposed to in a more sedentary/modern lifestyle.


That's not even remotely proven, so please don't present it as fact when it's not.

And your snark of "if you don't get it" is absolutely uncalled for here on HN. It's not appropriate.


> That's not even remotely proven

What is not proven? That people gain weight when they consume more calories than they burn? That hunter/gatherers burn more calories than people sitting at a desk most of the day? That extra nutrient absorption might help active people?


> burn more calories than

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal...

“average daily energy expenditure of traditional Hadza foragers was no different than that of Westerners after controlling for body size”


That's an interesting study, thanks!


I'm skeptical that honey consumption among hunter gatherers would come close to matching a diet with processed foods and hidden sugar, let alone the non-so-hidden sugar. Do you have a source?


(1) https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/food-matters/honey-make...

(2) https://www.angelesinstitute.edu/thenightingale/daily-sugar-...

By (1), 20% of a 2000 cal diet (assumption) would be 400 cal, or 100g sugar. By (2), average US sugar intake is 71.14g/day


On a high fat ketogenic diet, my thirst is satisfied on ~500ml of water a day. I drink much more when running on glucose, if it's really hot or I exercise intensely.


High fat, or actually ketogenic?

Just curious, really. I'm not aware of any serious downsides to ketogenic diets, except I suppose for the smell, but it doesn't take much glucose or starch at all before ketone bodies are no longer needed.


Lose body fat. Stopping eating refined carbohydrates. Take the Kraft glucose insulin test to see if you have “diabetes in situ” https://www.meridianvalleylab.com/services/kraft-prediabetes...


In my case nearly no body fat. Thanks for the link. Lets say prediabetes is diagnosed. What now? Kind of really hard to figure out what to do. Tried daytwo by the way, kind of accurate description. So trying to avoid food that produces a spikes. Not sure if that is enough. By the way one interesting thing. After hard workouts the responses are much better. So maybe one could just follow mothers advice, eat healthy and do sport.


IANAD, but AFAIK all you can do is eat better and exercise. Honestly the eating better is like 85% of it anyway.

I've been in the same boat for years now and I never eat just carbs by themselves, and I try to never exceed 35 carbs in a single meal. A lot more meat, a lot less bread. For me I'm almost better off eating candy than I am soft white bread (although neither is a good idea of course).

I went keto for a while and that did seem to help, except I do really poorly with high fat foods. Now I just try to balance everything, lean high on the protein, and limit carbs to 35 per meal.


One possibility can be Monogenic diabetes (aka MODY). Certain forms of it are more like a slowly onsetting type 1 diabetes. It can often be misdiagnosed.


You can get plenty of calories from raw animal fats. Cooking does help a lot with plants though. Also helps with infectious agents in meat and plants.



By analyzing plant remains in the cave, Humphrey's team found that residents ate lots of a particularly sweet type of acorn, which becomes soft and sticky when cooked. They also ate wild oats and legumes. Such foods can lead to serious decay,


Yes, and wild oats and legumes don’t exactly seem like the exception in ancient diets.

Plus another link in this thread claims ancient fruits have different sugars that don’t cause decay.


Cold is correlated with low sunlight, which leads to less vitamin D production:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4463890/


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