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If it's of any interest to anyone I recently did a podcast with Prof Robin Hanson too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIbOUjplFus [2hr 48min video]


My project http://www.fractalide.com is looking to build out a new hypercard type environmont


Any idea when custom allocator will become stable? That's the only thing holding us to nightly.


I literally had a conversation about this yesterday. We need someone to champion the work. If that's you, we should get in touch.


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Excellent! It might take me a day or two; I have some stuff to look up in order to give you a proper response.


Steve you're a good chap doing some solid, respectable and valuable work. These things are just troglodytes looking to inflict pain. The interesting thing is, they could totally transform themselves by doing constructive work and presenting it to the community. It's then, quite possibly, they realize, it is your attention they seek.


Fractalide [1] just removed cargo from it's build system, and opted for nix to take up the role [2] of cargo.

[1] https://github.com/fractalide/fractalide

[2] https://github.com/fractalide/nixcrates


a) yes it will, we'll have to do some design on the `fvm` to make it hotswap. It won't be ready for this stabilization release. The functionality is already there it just needs

b) I'm not really focusing on other market occupants. We need this system to solve some pretty hairy problems 100TB problems.

c) 'feature-credible, testable release' primarily this is dependent on `nixcrates`, documentation and maybe getting a few more services examples. I'd say a couple of weeks.


An author here: we're working on the nixcrates project to remove cargo and allow for closer integration between nix and crates.io, so far you can check out the project at https://github.com/nixcloud/nixcrates (joachim and paul are super people, hit them up if you're interested in contracting them) the net/http stuff is currently incompatible with the most recent changeset, I'll get working on it tomorrow morning HKT to make it work, I have to refactor it to suit the new stabilized API. Anyway, this attention was a bit earlier than expected, still have a couple of weeks to go before stabilizing. I hope you guys can kick the tires, tell us what you don't understand and please comment on the API because we want something sensible. We're using the late Pieter Hintjens' C4 so please hop on board and collaborate!


We have the early stages of a tutorial here: https://gitlab.com/dmichiels/dochttp/blob/master/http_todo.m... , it still has to be converted into a decent HOWTO. Hopefully this will give insight into designing applications using Fractalide.


Why do you have "remove cargo" in your roadmap?


There is too much cognitive dissonance between nix and cargo. It might be better to get nix, a package manager, to do the job of cargo, a package manager.


Nix is very cool tech. Thanks for sharing this exciting news!


Not sure if it's valid, but there's an implementation of a flow-based programming system over at https://github.com/fractalide/fractalide. Although it's not quite at the boxes and lines stage yet, the components are reusable and efficient.



Fractaclide provides an IDL, a build system and an approach to distribution.


Fractalide is a Rust programming platform that makes it simple to reason about efficient microservices.

The Nix Expression language provides a language compatible with a Continuous Integration - Hydra (https://nixos.org/hydra) and Code Deployment - Nixops (https://nixos.org/nixops) and when combined with Flowscript, Fractalide's own actor oriented dataflow language, the two languages fuse beautifully to become a glue language that declaratively describes your microservice architecture, then lazily builds it, weaves it together and deploys it.

Soon we'll be stabilizing at 1.0, but it's suitable to take it for a spin now, especially with the new net_http module (github.com/dmichiels/frac_net_http)

We're using the C4 contribution contract, so you're welcome to contribute code!


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