Very much so, beginning with this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_pioneers

Paging Steele...

Gotta love how clattner shuts down the thread. He's a nice guy but he does have a strong authoritarian side that gets triggered by the typical SJW causes (even in small talk about silly things).

To the downvoters: I'm a liberal speaking from years of working with him in meat space. You may not like what I said but it's accurate.

Lattner's message, in its entirety, was:

This list is for technical compiler and tools discussions, lets not turn a thread about Rafael’s personal decision into a rant about CoC’s which we have been through before.

If you’d like to have a productive discussion about CoC topics, then please start a new thread and use a respectful and productive tone.

If you're being downvoted for a tendentious characterization of the thread, it looks justified.

He explicitly--quoted right there in the comment you're responding to--invited a thread dedicated to discussion of the CoC. How from that do you infer that he's trying to suppress discussion of the topic?

Is this the email in question?

http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/2018-May/122934.htm...

Are you saying this is authoritarian and indicative of his being triggered, or are you saying that this sort of fits in with a mental model of him you've developed based on other experiences?

Or, as the calculus on living in the Bay Area shifts [0], top tier talent starts to direct itself elsewhere. This stems growth in the Bay Area since founding successful companies in lower cost areas will be possible, housing investment slows as a result of that, and the market naturally cools down a bit [1].

[0] Don't fool yourself into thinking that only people without the income or capital to live well in the Bay Area would leave it. There are intangibles (culture, traffic, distance to skiing, etc.) that, for some people, are non-optimal. For others, it's perfect. That's okay, humans are a varied lot (and it's a good thing).

[1] Nothing major, it will remain expensive due to geography and talent/creativity/capital density.

It's not really about tech companies, although the tech companies don't help. Contemporary conversation about Bay Area housing always makes it sound like some impossible dream that is hampered by hordes of techies. It seems to me that most of those concerns are red herrings; it's actually about zoning, local opposition, and government incompetence. The other HN comment ITT summarizes it pretty well: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16970532

That shifts the "cost" to employers... and you profited from it. Does that make it theft? :-)

I don't really feel sympathy for employers that don't adequately screen candidates.

And who knows: maybe the cheaters are completely capable of meeting the requirements of whatever job they end up in.

inb4 the next HN article decrying hilarious overwrought interviewing practices...

This is a cost they should be bearing.

There are multiple "American publics". The outrage machine will not like it, you are correct, but take a drive through Nevada or West Virginia and you'll see folks used to such side effects.

True, I shouldn't make the assumption that "the public" is one thing, or another in absolute terms. However, I wouldn't call it an "outrage machine" just because people are concerned about pollution/misuse of natural resources.

Clarification: the outrage machine does exist as a phenomenon in American politics. It's real.

I agree that stewardship of the environment is very important.

The laws aren't there to protect us, they exist to secure entrenched interests.

You’re not wrong. Banks have enough money to do what they want and hide it or pay off.

Average joe has to adhere to the letter of law and what ever corporations throw at them.

In general I agree with you, but I doubt banks lobbied for stricter anti money laundering laws as a measure to stifle competition. They do get pretty much a free pass when they do break them unlike smaller entities though.

We all love to be cynical, but I feel this sort of discussion is pointless. It's not based on facts or any domain knowledge.

Look up "Human History" if you need a source.

Yep. They also need regular "exercise" and lubrication if you want them to be worth anything in a WROL situation.

Back when my uncle was in the army, they stored all their weapons dry so the oils wouldn't trap all the dust. So I guess the attic is ok as long as you store it try, or in a gun case or something.

There's enough oxygen floating around in various forms that the _lack_ of an oil layer can allow rust to form. There are other ways to treat it, as your uncle alluded to, but they are probably very sensitive to following the appropriate maintenance schedule.

I went to a friend's house once and fetched a couple of old shitguns from her attic. They were serviceable, but had developed a this coat of rust, enough to require re-bluing.

I believe the heat cycling (heating + cooling + condensation) in an attic acts on guns the same way auto exhaust acts on a car's exhaust system.

Yep, this used to happen frequently on road trips. It relies on squeezing the wheel fairly firmly.

I got into the habit of periodically giving it a good squeeze while resting my hand on it.

It doesn't want a squeeze though, it needs resistance/feedback on turning the wheel. Having your hands on the wheel isn't enough, you actually have to give it a little tug, so the alert happens pretty often unless you have a good cadence of tugging on the wheel randomly while in Autopilot.

Hence the increasingly common tactic of Tesla owners to hang a water bottle from one side of the wheel, which provides constant torque, and fools the system into thinking you are always holding it.

That sounds almost dangerous.

Might those tugs affect its learning?

It is NOT learning.

Nashville's getting pretty expensive, too, thought it's nothing compared to the Bay Area.