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Thanks for the feedback. We'll be sure to make the wording super clear.


True, but you're missing the main thrust of the "I could never do that, I don't have time!" comment.

It's an excuse for not trying. If you don't have time to try, you can't fail.


The original link points to a non-official course that is still in beta testing.

Here is the link to the official Python track: http://www.codecademy.com/tracks/python

EDIT: all better now!


Is the site broken currently? I can't see the actual exercise.


Nope, it's up. What browser are you using?


I tried with both Firefox Aurora 16.0a2 and Google Chrome 21. I'll check again after going home. This is what I see btw: http://i.imgur.com/8VBLS.png


Same problem here, with Opera 12 and IE9.

Edit: Got it to work, it was the firewall blocking something.


Glad to hear it; thanks for circling back. what_ever, were you able to have better luck later?


Ah, we do have a firewall at work which is pretty aggressive. Didn't get time to check it out yesterday at home. Will do so today. Thanks.


Interesting. This might change the nightlife culture of SF to be more similar to bigger cities. I did a lot of hanging out in friend's houses, cooking, playing games, or having house parties in SF. In NYC, where the apartments are much much smaller, there's a lot less of that—people go out on the town all night and buy $15 drinks instead, and that supports the bars and restaurants than stay open late.

I'm also curious what safety measure they have on those vertical storage units. In an earthquake, all your stuff falling down in front of the door could trap you in your apartment.


If the problem is something inherent in the male constitution, then why don't we see this disparity across all majors?


The vast bulk of majors either lacks the ability to get into it so early ("I've been civil engineering since I was 9!"), women get into them just as easily ("I've been into biology for a while now"), or it sounds really lame when you brag ("I've been making lumps of indistinguishable chemicals with chemistry sets since I was nine"). I wouldn't be surprised there's a couple of others that have at least a trace of this problem.


This advice is true, but not actionable.


"but not actionable."

Why not? OP can start with a resource like codeacademy or other similar online resources. The best way to learn is to do it. Yes mistakes will be made. But then again, the best way to learn is by learning from mistakes.


Thanks for this nuanced and thoughtful feedback.

Our tool is a new way to present information, and the course creator community is figuring out how best to take advantage of the format. You wouldn't write documentation in the same way that you present to a crowd of 2,000 people, and you won't write a Codecademy lesson the same way you write a textbook. It will take some time to use the platform to its full advantage.

I'm excited to see what innovative courses the community comes up with, and I would love to hear your suggestions about the product or curriculum. Feel free to reach out directly at sasha at codecademy dot com.


Hey Sasha, As mentioned elsewhere on this thread, I'm aggressively working through the courses and have found it immensely helpful. A couple of suggestions:

1) It would be great to highlight on the site some success stories as these develop. I'm learning a lot but my concern is how translatable my learnings will ultimately be to developing real products. It would be great to see the outputs created by people that have worked their way through the courses.

2) How about a demo day for 'grads' who produce companies / products (a la incubator programs)? Seems like this would be a great opportunity for exposure and publicity (Just keep me in mind please so that I can get in on this once I turn my learning into a tangible product :))


These are excellent ideas! We certainly want users to be able to use what they have learned into real products.

Send me an email—would love to hear about what you're building. sasha at codecademy.com


Well I'm not building anything yet except my skills and confidence. I'll be sure to reach out once I do get to the stages of building products. Cheers.


Great quote—thanks for sharing it!


Excellent point. Not only that, but analogies always come along with extra bits that may lead them down the wrong path. It's very tricky to find just the right metaphor.


Richard Feynman answering the question "How do magnets work" in an informal pick-your-brain type interview:

"I can't explain that attraction in terms of anything else that's familiar to you. For example, if we said the magnets attract like rubber bands, I would be cheating you. Because they're not connected by rubber bands. I'd soon be in trouble. And secondly, if you were curious enough, you'd ask me why rubber bands tend to pull back together again, and I would end up explaining that in terms of electrical forces, which are the very things that I'm trying to use the rubber bands to explain. So I have cheated very badly, you see. So I am not going to be able to give you an answer to why magnets attract each other except to tell you that they do."


From the 1983 BBC "Fun to Imagine" series. Video for reference: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMFPe-DwULM


this is one of the funniest videos I've ever seen. I love HN!


Yes, it itself is an invisible stumbling block for experienced teachers. So meta!


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